421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
Monday, November 4, 2024  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone Board  
Nick Kottmeyer, County Board Office  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC (Remote)  
Alison Murphy, DMMC (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
Jason Norton, Darien PD (Remote)  
Christopher Weinbrenner, Addison PD (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Selvik, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, and Johl were present, which  
constituted a quorum.  
Selvik, Johl, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, and Fleury  
PRESENT  
3.  
4.  
5.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK  
There were no remarks from Chair Selvik.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
6.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
6.A.  
DEDIR System October Maintainer Report  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Tyler Benjamin  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
6.B.  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, October 7, 2024  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Colin Fleury  
SECONDER:  
7.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
7.A.  
2025 Meeting Calendar - Policy Advisory Committee  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye" to recommend approval to the ETS Board,  
motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
RESULT:  
Pat Johl  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
7.B.  
Recommendation for the approval of a contract purchase order to Motorola Solutions, PO  
924030, to develop an encryption deployment plan for the DuPage Emergency Dispatch  
Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System), for a contract total of $200,836.99;  
contract pursuant to the Governmental Joint Purchasing Act, 30 ILCS 525/2  
(STARCOM21 Master Contract CMT2028589).  
Member Benjamin questioned whether the development of encryption was part of the  
initial deployment plan and if not, what was the plan. Ms. Zerwin answered, at the time  
of the procurement, the Chiefs knew they wanted encryption but there was no design as to  
what levels they wanted on the talkgroups. Member Benjamin asked, if this were not  
approved, what would happen. Ms. Zerwin said we would struggle to design the  
encryption program ourselves. She said this is more complicated than was realized and  
more than the Motorola System Manager could do on his own. Ms. Zerwin said that  
while the Motorola System Manager understands encryption, and John Nebl, Erik  
Maplethorpe, and Jim Connolly were sent to training to understand the process of  
encryption, there are factors such as the number of keys to be programmed into the radios  
and how that fits into the STARCOM master plan for keyloading. She said the  
background processes were not worked into the original plan and that the plan of the  
Chiefs has evolved with the talkgroup name changes and work behind the scenes. Chair  
Selvik concurred, saying there have been a lot of changes over the past few years.  
Member Benjamin then asked for something such as this, is the PAC where a  
recommendation for contract approval would come through. Ms. Zerwin answered, yes  
and no, not everything. Ms. Zerwin provided a brief history of the Radio Steering  
Committee and how when that group was finished part of the Intergovernmental  
Agreement for the DEDIR System was that there be a Policy Advisory Committee for the  
purpose of overseeing policy related to operation of the DEDIR System. The intent of  
PAC is to develop policies related to the radio system. Ms. Zerwin said that because this  
contract directly relates to the radio and specifically encryption and what they are trying  
to do as a group, it is appropriate to come through the PAC. She said members of the  
police and fire focus groups have worked with ETSB on the language in the proposal  
because it is operational and complex. Ms. Zerwin said that it is taking their plan on  
paper versus the technical aspect of it and implementing it the best way possible.  
Member Benjamin said there is a lot of what exactly will be provided in the proposal the  
PAC is recommending for approval. Ms. Zerwin confirmed and Member Benjamin  
replied, thank you.  
Member Clark said this is for consulting and engineering to set up encryption and that it  
does not cover ongoing responsibilities once encryption is set up. He asked if ongoing  
maintenance of encryption keys would be in addition to this. Ms. Zerwin believed that  
would fall under the jurisdiction of the System Manager. Discussion ensued regarding  
the costs of some of the proposed work and whether some of the specific details in the  
proposal had already been completed, the goals of what is to be accomplished, the  
capacity issues within the STARCOM infrastructure, and that the purpose of the proposal  
is the design of the encryption plan. Chair Selvik said this is a recommendation to the  
ETS Board, that it can be explained to the members of the board and they can decide.  
Member Clark asked if this had been run through ETSB legal. Ms. Zerwin replied yes  
that nothing goes to the Board without going through legal per County policy.  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye" to recommend approval of the contract purchase  
order to the ETS Board, motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
RESULT:  
Pat Johl  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
8.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
8.A. Police  
8.A.1. Encryption Update  
This item was discussed under Agenda Items 7.B.. There was no further discussion.  
8.B. Fire  
Member Johl said the most recent templates had been distributed to the agencies for updates and  
review by the Fire Focus Group to start programming radios. He said there is a Fire Focus Group  
meeting coming up with Motorola to discuss mobiles. Ms. Zerwin said she had a meeting with  
Motorola regarding next steps. She said that Motorola had asked if Fire Focus might be willing  
to work with product on 8500 developments. Ms. Zerwin said this came about quickly, and  
although not as quickly as DuPage would like, they were responsive.  
8.C. WAVE App  
Ms. Zerwin said the WAVE app had grown more than Motorola had anticipated and the number  
of talkgroups on the system overall is at capacity. A list of the talkgroups available to DuPage  
had been disseminated with the Members’ board information. She said no DuPage agencies had  
yet complained that they could not access a talkgroup, but that recently Clarendon Hills was  
denied their local channel because of capacity. Ms. Zerwin said that Motorola is working on the  
rework of the WAVE app that had started with Northwest Central, and that DuPage was in the  
queue. A short discussion ensued around usage, capacity by agency on the new system, and  
whether the full capacity may affect agencies now. Member Johl said there is a difference  
between how police utilize the app versus fire. Police are using it for personnel who cannot  
access a radio and this is their only means of communication whereas fire chiefs have a radio but  
carry a device with the app out of convenience and those are limits they may need to consider out  
of safety for their personnel. He said the requests had not had restrictions put on them but may  
need to if the migration to new WAVE was not carried out quickly. Chair Selvik asked if there  
was a need right now to evaluate usage. Ms. Zerwin said she believes it may come down to what  
comes first, the capacity level changes or the PAC received another request. Chair Selvik said he  
agrees with Member Johl, that if this is going to take time, and an agency is operating on a TAC  
channel for undercover purposes and who may not want to carry a radio, the PAC may want to  
start evaluating usage. Ms. Zerwin reviewed the policy which stated the WAVE app was not to  
be used for first line user dispatch as it has a lower priority than the regular channels. The  
question was asked of approximately how many DuPage agencies were utilizing the app to which  
Ms. Kraus answered, about a dozen, which was a mix of police and fire. Ms. Zerwin said for the  
next meeting, the policy, a list of users, number of users, and the available talkgroups would be  
provided for discussion and she would check on the position of DuPage in Motorola’s queue.  
9.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
10.  
NEW BUSINESS  
Chair Selvik said this was Member Johl’s last PAC meeting, that he would be missed but that he  
was moving up to replace Chief Erik Kramer as the Fire Representative on the ETS Board and  
hopefully approving the PAC’s recommendations. Member Johl thanked the members of the  
PAC and Fire Focus Group for all the work they had done over the last four years to try to get the  
radios out to fire personnel.  
11.  
ADJOURNMENT  
11.A. Next Meeting: Monday, December 2 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Vice Chair Johl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:45am, seconded by Member  
Benjamin. On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Eve Kraus