421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
www.dupagecounty.gov  
Monday, February 3, 2025  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
Chair Selvik stated a request was made to allow remote participation. Under Section 7a of the  
Open Meetings Act, If a quorum of the members of the public body is physically present as  
required by Section 2.01, a majority of the public body may allow a member of that body to  
attend the meeting by other means if the member is prevented from physically attending because  
of: (I) personal illness or disability; (ii) employment purposes or the business of the public body;  
or (iii) a family or other emergency. A motion was made by Member Fleury seconded by  
Member Jansen to allow Member Burmeister to remotely participate via Zoom. On voice vote,  
motion carried.  
2.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone Board  
Andy Saucedo, Motorola  
Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office (Remote)  
Andrew Baum, Motorola (Remote)  
Scott Bukovic, Westmont PD (Remote)  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
Tom Gallahue, ILEAS (Remote)  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC (Remote)  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Jim McGreal, Downers Grove PD (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
CW, Unknown (Remote)  
J Gonzalez, Unknown (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Selvik, Burmeister (Remote), Clark, and Fleury were present, which  
constituted a quorum.  
Selvik, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, and Jansen  
Benjamin  
PRESENT  
ABSENT  
3.  
4.  
5.  
6.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK  
There were no remarks from Chair Selvik.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
6.A.  
25-0419  
DEDIR System January Maintainer Report  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
Motorola System Manager Report January 2025.pdf  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Colin Fleury  
SECONDER:  
6.B.  
25-0420  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, January 6, 2025  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
2025-01-06 PAC Minutes Summary amended.pdf  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Attachments:  
RESULT:  
7.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
7.A.  
25-0424  
WAVE Presentation  
Mr. Andrew Baum of Motorola was available via Zoom to discuss questions regarding  
the WAVE application. He began with an overview of the WAVE that DEDIR System  
users currently access called WAVE 5000 which is being sunset and transitioned to a new  
platform called WAVE PTX, that is cloud based. Users are being transitioned as they are  
coming onto the system. Mr. Baum said the WAVE is a vehicle utilizing LMR when a  
radio is out of range listening for audio. He said it is a business-critical application, not a  
mission-critical application. Mr. Baum said he would not suggest a frontline responder  
use this application, but that it is a nice to have in support of LMR technology. Ms.  
Zerwin asked when is the sunset. Mr. Baum said he could provide a firm date, but he  
believed it to be the end of this year. Discussion ensued regarding the designed capacity  
of WAVE 5000 which was 500 users, of which Motorola currently has 2,000, the  
limitation of two zones, or profiles, of 16 talkgroups per agency, and whether there is a  
limitation of talkgroups on the new WAVE PTX system, to which there is not. There  
was also discussion regarding encryption capabilities and how it works as compared to  
the radios, multi-factor authentication on WAVE PTX, how soon DuPage could move to  
WAVE PTX, how DuPage would vet talkgroups requested by agencies and MOUs  
required for access to outside talkgroups, limitations on distance and wifi, notifications,  
and the process to notify Motorola if a user loses a device with WAVE enabled.  
7.B.  
ETS-R-0001-25  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.11: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System) WAVE. (PAC Recommendation  
to approve as amended: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
After the WAVE discussion with Motorola, Members discussed information learned that  
may affect the policy and require changes. In regard to talkgroup access, Member Fleury  
clarified that users should not have talkgroups beyond what they have on their radios, that  
WAVE and the radio talkgroups should mirror each other. Ms. Zerwin said wording  
could be added limiting applications to their user select template. Member Clark noted  
that it is difficult to switch between profiles, or zones, that a user must log out of one and  
into the other to access the second profile. Mr. Baum noted that on WAVE PTX, that has  
been changed to allow users to select profiles from a dropdown menu. The number of  
talkgroups per profile wording within the policy was adjusted for clarification. Mr. Baum  
also noted that agencies could go beyond the 32 talkgroups, but that it would incur a  
second instance charge per month.  
Chair Selvik questioned the process for the adjustments being made. Ms. Zerwin said  
that procedurally, the amendments to the policy would go through the ETS Board for  
approval, but that changes could be made administratively to the application without  
Board approval once the PAC is able to review the spreadsheet. These changes could  
include opening an ETSB helpdesk ticket if a phone or tablet with the WAVE app is lost  
so it can be turned off with Motorola. It would then be signed off on by the agency as  
part of the application process. Member Fleury questioned whether there needed to be  
language regarding permissible talkgroups. Discussion ensued regarding the application  
process and wording that would be removed from the policy and moved to the application  
as instructional, so they could be modified as forms or processes are changed.  
The Members were comfortable with the policy changes to be brought before the Board  
for approval as amended.  
A motion was made by Member Fleury to recommend approval to the ETS Board as  
amended, seconded by Member Jansen. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye" to  
recommend approval to the ETS Board, motion carried.  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE 2.12.25 draft.pdf  
Attachments:  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Application Attachment  
A 2.12.25 draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment B 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment C 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment D 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment E 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment F 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
911-005.11 Access to the DEDIRS WAVE Attachment G 2.12.25  
draft.pdf  
APPROVED AS AMENDED  
Colin Fleury  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
25-0427  
Craig Jansen  
7.C.  
Fire Template (PAC Recommendation to approve: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Clark said that during the last Fire Focus Group meeting, there was a desire to  
provide options for agencies to utilize the NFPA hazard zone operation in all the radios,  
regardless of whether an agency chose them for their agency selectable positions in the  
radio. He said this involves adding two more zones to provide channels set up to utilize  
the hazard zone in the standard radio template. The latest spreadsheet was shared on  
screen with the added zones.  
Member Clark said there are a couple implications radio-wide. One is the delayed shut  
down function where when the radio knob is turned to off, the radio remains in a sleep  
mode for a period of time in case a radio volume is turned down too far to the off  
position, the radio would not have to go through the entire reboot cycle to be brought  
back up. The other is that there is a minimum volume setting that exists within the radio  
although it is difficult for most to distinguish between the two. Member Clark said these  
two functions are inherited because of the addition of the hazard zone anywhere within  
the radio. Member Clark said the other objectionable features present in the radios when  
first presented to DuPage have been eliminated either by Motorola or are able to be  
turned off. He believed this to be a good compromise. Mr. Connolly concurred with  
Member Clark and said an agency would not be precluded from using the hazard zone in  
certain situations as opposed to if they decide not to include it within their templates at  
all, although it is not required. Member Clark added that some of the work with NFPA  
by Mr. Connolly and Mr. Sullivan has been rolled out but that some is not scheduled until  
2026 when agencies may decide to use those features. Having the hazard zones within  
the radios provides a pathway to do so. Mr. Connolly agreed with that statement and said  
this provides an interim solution to make the radio work the way they want.  
Ms. Zerwin said this knowledge now needs to be imparted to the masses because from  
the time they picked their APXNext XNs to now, there are different chiefs, and the radios  
have been adjusted with firmware to where they are operationally today. The ETS Board  
also said the agencies could choose whether they want the hazard zone in the radios,  
which is why they chose those radios. Ms. Zerwin said there needs to be a meeting  
scheduled with the fire chiefs so the Fire Focus Group can explain the functionalities of  
the radios with the hazard zone proposal and give the chiefs the option to choose as that  
is what the Board said it would do. Ms. Zerwin said a memorandum had been drafted  
and proposed that a meeting be held to go through the details and then the memo  
presented with the supporting NFPA information. The draft memorandum was brought  
on screen while Ms. Zerwin explained the options within. There would also be an  
accompanying new fleetmap format for ease of entry into CommandCentral and a  
PowerPoint presentation regarding the functions.  
Ms. Zerwin asked that the  
memorandum not be distributed until a meeting with the chiefs could be held.  
Discussion ensued regarding the aliases within the various devices, radios, loggers, etc  
and whether a CommandCentral/RadioCentral alias change would be reflected in the  
STARCOM provisioning manager, it would not, meeting dates at which to disseminate  
and discuss the hazard zone information with the chiefs, the pros/cons of having the  
hazard zone in the radios even if hidden, the whether the two additional zones could be  
programmed in radios for demonstration purposes before the Fire Standardization  
meeting next week.  
Chair Selvik asked Ms. Zerwin what was needed from PAC. Ms. Zerwin said the  
template could be recommended to the Board for February 12, and with the presentation  
of the template would be a caveat that if there are agencies that do not want the hazard  
zone at all, then a second template would be presented. Ms. Zerwin said the next few  
weeks would not change Mr. Saucedo’s workload so a second template could be brought  
forward in March. She said any agency that knows they do not want the hazard zone  
could be programmed using the template that already exists. Member Clark noted that  
this template was already approved by the ETS Board and all they are doing now is  
approving a second template.  
Chair Selvik asked for a motion to recommend approval of a second fire template to the  
ETS Board. A motion was made by Member Jansen, seconded by Member Burmeister.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
Fire Template with HZ 1.31.25.pdf  
Attachments:  
8.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
8.A. Police  
8.A.1. Encryption Update  
Chair Selvik said there was a meeting with Motorola last week. The fleetmap template and list  
of talkgroups were provided to Motorola. Chair Selvik and Member Fleury will be included on  
the standing Wednesday morning meetings to keep the project moving. Ms. Zerwin believed that  
DuPage was farther along than Motorola had thought and felt this may move more quickly than  
anticipated.  
Member Clark asked for clarification on what information is to be provided within the new  
fleetmap revision. An example was shared on screen as Ms. Zerwin reviewed the columns of  
information and how it relates to the agencies operationally. A short discussion ensued.  
8.B. Fire  
8.B.1. APXNext XN Fire Radio Programming Memorandum (Fleetmap, PowerPoint, Template)  
This was covered under Agenda Item 7.C. Fire Template.  
9.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
10.  
11.  
NEW BUSINESS  
There was no new business.  
ADJOURNMENT  
11.A. Next Meeting: Monday, March 3 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Member Fleury made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:52am, seconded by Member Jansen.  
On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Eve Kraus