421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Emergency Telephone System  
Board  
Final Summary  
Wednesday, April 10, 2024  
9:00 AM  
Room 3500B  
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Meeting ID: 845 2437 6572  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
9:00 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Schwarze at 9:00 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
ETSB STAFF:  
Linda Zerwin  
Matt Theusch  
Gregg Taormina  
Eve Kraus  
Prithvi Bhatt (Remote)  
COUNTY CLERK:  
Adam Johnson, Chief Deputy Clerk  
STATE'S ATTORNEY:  
Mark Winistorfer  
ATTENDEES:  
Gwen Henry, County Treasurer  
Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office  
Tyler Benjamin, DU-COMM  
Andy Dina, Warrenville Fire  
Don Ehrenhaft, County IT  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC  
Nick Kottmeyer, County Board Office  
Jessica Robb, DU-COMM  
Mike Sampey, Village of Addison  
Roy Selvik, Addison PD  
Rachel Bata, Roselle PD (Remote)  
Kevin Dempsey, Addison PD (Remote)  
Dylan Goldman, Axon (Remote)  
Michael Hylton, Oakbrook Terrace PD (Remote)  
Jeanine Krull, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Ed Leinweber, Clarendon Hills PD (Remote)  
Anthony McPhearson, County CIO (Remote)  
Bob Murr, College of DuPage (Remote)  
Jason Norton, Darien PD (Remote)  
Mike Rivas, Villa Park PD (Remote)  
Ryan Romberg, Axon (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar, Srejma,  
and Toerpe were present. Members Swanson, Tillman and Yoo were absent.  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, and Toerpe  
PRESENT  
Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
ABSENT  
3.  
4.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR SCHWARZE  
National Public Safety Telecommunications Week  
Chair Schwarze presented a Proclamation Acknowledging April 14-20, 2024 as National  
Telecommunications Week. Chair Schwarze asked for a motion to accept and place the  
Proclamation on file. Member Srejma motioned, seconded by Member Kramer. On voice vote, all  
Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Chair Schwarze expressed his appreciation to the Telecommunicators, from his perspective of a  
former firefighter and as a citizen, for the job they do. He then opened the item for comments.  
Member Srejma thanked the Board for their recognition of the TCs and focused his comments on  
the mental stress of the calls TCs take and his gratitude for everything the Board does to support  
them. Member Schar said that the proclamation highlighted some of the bigger things that had  
happened over the last year and that as someone who interacts with TCs on an almost daily basis,  
the job they do is outstanding every time and they receive very little recognition for their efforts.  
Member Kramer echoed the previous statements and said thank you, that the first responders on  
the street could not do what they do without the TCs.  
Chair Schwarze then requested a picture be taken of the PSAP personnel in attendance with the  
members of the ETS Board.  
5.  
6.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
CONSENT AGENDA  
Chairman Schwarze asked for a motion to combine Consent Agenda Items A/Monthly Report for  
April 10; B/Revenue Report; C/Minutes Approval Policy Advisory Committee for March 4;  
D/Minutes Approval ETS Board for March 13. Member Schar motioned, seconded by Member  
Toerpe. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Chairman Schwarze asked for a motion to approve Consent Agenda Items A/Monthly Report for  
April 10; B/Revenue Report; C/Minutes Approval Policy Advisory Committee for March 4;  
D/Minutes Approval ETS Board for March 13. Member Srejma motioned, seconded by Member  
Guttman. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
6.A. Monthly Staff Report  
6.A.1.  
Monthly Report for April 10 Regular Meeting  
Attachments:  
6.B. Revenue Report 911 Surcharge Funds  
6.B.1.  
ETSB Revenue Report for April 10 Regular Meeting for Fund 5820/Equalization  
Attachments:  
6.C. Minutes Approval Policy Advisory Committee  
6.C.1.  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, March 4, 2024  
Attachments:  
6.D. Minutes Approval ETS Board  
6.D.1.  
ETSB Minutes - Regular Meeting - Wednesday, March 13, 2024  
Attachments:  
APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA  
William Srejma  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Michael Guttman  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, and Toerpe  
Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
ABSENT:  
7.  
VOTE REQUIRED BY ETS BOARD  
7.A. Budget Transfers  
7.A.1.  
Transfer of funds from 4000-5820-53828 (Contingencies) to 4000-5820-54100-0700 (IT  
Equipment-Capital Lease) in the amount of $12,000, for payment and accounting of  
contractual obligations related to the monthly lease costs associated with the  
copier/printer contracts pursuant to GASB 87 for FY24.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
Michael Guttman  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, and Toerpe  
Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
ABSENT:  
7.A.2.  
Transfer of funds from 4000-5820-53828 (Contingencies) to 4000-5820-53800-0001  
(Copier Usage) in the amount of $5,000, for payment and accounting of contractual  
obligations related to the monthly print costs associated with the copier/printer contracts  
for FY24.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
William Srejma  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, and Toerpe  
Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
ABSENT:  
7.B. Payment of Claims  
7.B.1.  
Payment of Claims for April 10, 2024 for FY24 - Total for 4000-5820 (Equalization):  
$232,600.58.  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
APPROVED  
Attachments:  
RESULT:  
Mark Franz  
MOVER:  
Michael Guttman  
SECONDER:  
7.C. Purchase Resolutions  
7.C.1.  
Recommendation for the approval of a contract to AT&T Inc., for a three-year pricing  
agreement for Session Initiated Protocol (SIP) utility services in the PSAPs, for the  
period of April 28, 2024 through April 27, 2027, for a contract total not to exceed  
$345,000; Per 55 ILCS 5/5-1022(c) not suitable for competitive bids. (Public Utility)  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Grant Eckhoff  
Erik Kramer  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.C.2.  
Recommendation to ratify the approval of a contract purchase order to Toshiba Business  
Solutions, for multi-functional device equipment, supplies, software and service  
solutions, for the period of May 25, 2024 through March 31, 2029, for a contract total  
amount for ETSB of $94,500; per County contract TE-P-0006-24.  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
William Srejma  
David Schar  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.D. Resolutions  
7.D.1.  
Resolution declaring equipment, inventory, and/or property on Attachment A, purchased  
by the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County, as surplus equipment.  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Michael Guttman  
Erik Kramer  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.D.2.  
Resolution approving the transfer of inventory from the County of DuPage on behalf of  
the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County to the DuPage County  
Information Technology (IT) Department and Office of Homeland Security and  
Emergency Management (OHSEM).  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
David Schar  
MOVER:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
SECONDER:  
7.D.3.  
Reappointment to the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County Policy  
Advisory Committee - Chief Michael Rivas (DU-COMM Police Representative).  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Michael Guttman  
William Srejma  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.D.4.  
7.D.5.  
7.D.6.  
Reappointment to the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County Policy  
Advisory Committee - Mr. Tyler Benjamin (DU-COMM PSAP Representative).  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
William Srejma  
Michael Guttman  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
Appointment to the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County Policy  
Advisory Committee - Mr. Eric Burmeister (ACDC PSAP Representative).  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
William Srejma  
Erik Kramer  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
Resolution to approve access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch Interoperable Radio  
System talk groups pursuant to Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System), as requested by the Northlake  
Police Department.  
Ms. Zerwin said that the Policy Advisory Committee (PAC) approved the request  
pending a letter from Bensenville PD in support of the application. The letter was  
received this last Monday and was forwarded to the ETS Board.  
Vice Chair Franz asked for a summary of how the applications have been handled in the  
past. Ms. Zerwin said the PAC had been reviewing how outside agencies had been added  
to the DEDIR System over time and how the policy had evolved to include the  
interoperable talk groups. She said the PAC was reviewing the policy because of  
encryption and that there would be changes as some outside agencies do not have  
encryption. Ms. Zerwin said there is an application and once received there is a 14-day  
notice sent to the agencies and that no objections have been brought forward. The PAC  
then reviews the application and makes a recommendation to the ETS Board. Ms.  
Zerwin said sometimes the PAC will amend the talk groups based on the policy or if  
there are special circumstances for additional talk groups beyond the Interops 1-8 (9).  
She said in this instance, Northlake has a lot of interaction with Bensenville and Elmhurst  
Police and had requested the main talk groups of those agencies.  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Erik Kramer  
Robert Toerpe  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.D.7.  
Resolution to approve access to the DuPage ETSB CAD System network pursuant to  
Policy 911-018: 9-1-1 System Administration as requested by Addison Police  
Department for use of an Axon Interface to the Hexagon Archive Database.  
Vice Chair Franz requested a summary on the evolution of this item. Ms. Zerwin said, as  
most people are aware, Addison is going to be moving to Axon for their records  
management system. Addison PD provided their intent to the Police Records  
Management System (PRMS) Committee in 2021 and are preparing to cut over in  
summer. She said a records management system requires access to the Computer Aided  
Dispatch (CAD) information which would be accomplished through the archive database,  
meaning it would not be a real-time connection, for Axon to access through the archive  
server via script. Ms. Zerwin said approval of the connection would allow them to start  
testing and if they find a real-time interface is desired, it would have to be developed by  
Hexagon.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
William Srejma  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
8.  
DEDIR SYSTEM PORTABLES AND MOBILES  
8.A. Police  
PAC Chair Dina began by discussing encryption. He said there had been a question from a board  
member as to the encryption timeline and why does it seem the process taking so long. Chair  
Dina said one reason is equipment and asked Ms. Zerwin to speak to the consoles. Ms. Zerwin  
said the AXS consoles purchased for the PSAPs require updates as they lack some enhancements  
that the PSAPs have in the current MCC7500s. The enhancements have been added to the AXS  
consoles. There is a 30-week lead time to order the equipment and configure and install. Ms.  
Zerwin said some preliminary work has been completed in the PSAPs to prepare for the  
installation. The intent was to not pay for encryption on the MCC7500s and then again on the  
AXS consoles, and this allows for encryption to move forward at the PSAP level.  
Chair Dina said there was a change in the encryption plan after the law enforcement radios were  
distributed. He said that because of that change, those radios would need to be touched. PAC  
Chair Dina said that until the new radios are deployed to Fire, they would not have AES  
encryption capabilities. Additionally, Chair Dina said HB4339 is still being monitored but that it  
does not look like it is going anywhere. He said all of these factors are a part of the delay in  
encryption and that the timeline is around 30+ weeks. The testing on the OHSEM channels is  
still moving forward.  
8.B. Fire  
PAC Chair Dina felt he relays the same information month after month and wanted to start from  
scratch. He said that when the Fire Focus Group and PAC first started to talk about the new  
radios, the radios with the brand new NFPA standards had been presented to the Fire Chiefs and  
the ETS Board. Chair Dina said no one objected to the NFPA radios and the decision was made  
sight unseen. The new radios were provided for review however, they were still in development  
and viewers were required to sign a non-disclosure agreement. After the radio model was  
released, users were able to identify configuration issues. Chair Dina said the way the vendors  
interpreted the NFPA standards was unclear and the programming became problematic for the  
Fire Focus Group as they were not comfortable placing those radios in the hands of the  
firefighters, that they were less safe. He said that from the Fire Focus Group, Mr. Connolly and  
Lt. Sullivan became part of the NFPA Committee. The Fire Focus Group recommended changes  
to the NFPA Committee which were accepted.  
PAC Chair Dina said he knows he reported that to the ETS Board last month, but that he is still  
hearing comments made such as he is the only one who wants the NFPA radios or that he is  
drinking the NFPA kool-aid, but he said he honestly likes the NFPA model radio. PAC Chair  
Dina said non-NFPA radio, the APXNext XE, is also a good radio. Regarding the timeline, April  
is the month the first phase changes are anticipated to be made to the NFPA compliant APXNext  
XN radios. PAC Chair Dina said that if the requested changes are made, the Fire Focus Group  
will have a radio that they are comfortable deploying into the field. He thanked the ETSB for  
giving agencies the choice between the two radio models. He continued saying that when the  
changes are made, he was confident that most fire agencies would choose the NFPA compliant  
radio. Chair Dina then provided a brief background into the NFPA Committee and said their  
commitment to safety is why the Fire Focus Group feels so strongly about the NFPA radios. He  
stated that the standards created by NFPA are based on research performed from line of duty  
death and injury in order to make the things safer. He concluded by saying the experience with  
the NFPA Committee was very positive and would affect firefighters across the county, that any  
agency who purchases the radios going forward would have members from the Fire Focus Group  
to thank for those changes.  
Chair Dina said that come April 15 the changes would be made and each agency would be given  
an APXNext XE and an APXNext XN for testing to decide which radio model they want for  
their agency. Vice Chair Franz questioned to confirm that each agency would be given that  
choice. PAC Chair Dina answered, correct. Vice Chair Franz asked if the APXNext XE radios  
had been tested. PAC Chair Dina confirmed, yes, that the Fire Focus Group has those radios, as  
well, and that his APXNext XE was being tested on an engine in Warrenville. He said he had  
been using his APXNext XN exclusively for fires and assigned to safety and he has had zero  
problems with it but that he knows the ins and outs of the radio model. PAC Chair Dina  
confirmed that he had answered Vice Chair Franz’s questions.  
PAC Chair Dina moved on to the APXNext XN radio microphone recall. He said that different  
spins could be put on the recall. One could say that it is an NFPA microphone (said in a negative  
tone) or that the microphone has been put through thirty (30) different tests to ensure its safety  
for firefighter use. PAC Chair Dina said it failed one of those tests where water is put on the  
screen of the mic so they know it works when it gets wet. The microphones are tested each year  
to the NFPA standard so Motorola will replace every microphone at no charge because of the  
standard. PAC Chair Dina reinforced that the microphone alone goes through thirty tests which  
provides an idea of just how safe the radios are. His point of view of the recall is positive in that  
because of the NFPA standard requirements, the microphones are tested each year and pass and  
if they do not, they are replaced.  
PAC Chair Dina moved onto the mobile radio issue in which some mobiles experiences  
interference between STARCOM radio traffic and VHF. He said Motorola is releasing a memo  
regarding this issue and that he had not seen it yet but it hopefully contained fixes to allow the  
mobile radios to be deployed.  
Chair Schwarze asked if the Members had any further questions, to which there were none. Chair  
Schwarze thanked PAC Chair Dina and the PAC Members for their work with all the agencies.  
Vice Chair Franz echoed his appreciation for the work the PAC does, especially those who  
volunteer for the assignments. He then asked a follow up clarifying question, when the agencies  
are given the choice of the radio model, will they be given a deadline for their decision and then  
schedule the rollout. PAC Chair Dina said yes, there would be a decision for that testing timeline  
and turned the question over to Ms. Zerwin. Ms. Zerwin said the plan would be to have Motorola  
come out when the demo radio is ready to go through the feature set of both radio models so  
there is complete communication from the vendor. Ms. Zerwin said it would be a group meeting  
and that six (6) demos of each model would be circulated through the agencies. After an agency  
has completed their operational testing, the length of the timeframe of which would be  
determined by the PAC or Fire Focus Group, ETSB staff will meet with the agency to see what  
they want to do and sign off on paperwork before completing a change order. Ms. Zerwin said, as  
a brief aside, the numbers within the ETSB cache have been running down so she may  
recommend that some of the APXNext XN that an agency may not want, be kept for the cache.  
She said this may come down to how many agencies want to change to the APXNext XEs. Vice  
Chair Franz asked what the price differential is. Ms. Zerwin said she did not know, and that a  
memo would be forthcoming.  
9.  
DU PAGE ETSB 9-1-1 SYSTEM DESIGN  
Ms. Zerwin had nothing beyond what was reported in the monthly report.  
Member Guttman asked if Ms. Zerwin was satisfied with the responses from AT&T, that when  
he reads the reports each month, he feels a sense of frustration. Ms. Zerwin said, in regard to the  
Customer Premise Equipment (CPE) project, there are several things at play. She said the  
NG9-1-1 project is a rollout, there is the replacement of ETSB CPE equipment, and the  
Session-Initiated Protocol (SIP), which all are separate siloed divisions of AT&T. Ms. Zerwin  
said there has been escalation to a high level which seems to have worked so far. She said a lot  
has been learned about the engineering, that one of the delays of the SIP connection is diversity  
in the path, that it is important that the PSAPs have two separate ways into the building. Ms.  
Zerwin said that translated from the fiber running into the buildings, the switching stations they  
are routed to, and as AT&T downsizes and eliminated switching stations, it becomes more  
complex. She said there is also a difference in how engineering designs the solutions versus  
what optically we think it should be and it has taken a while, but she believed the right people are  
in place in regard to the SIP. Ms. Zerwin said she feels somewhat more satisfied but is frustrated  
by the overall project and the inability of AT&T to work amongst their own divisions to solve a  
problem. She said there has been some discussion at the state level regarding the project  
management for NG9-1-1, as well. From where things are today, given the issues experienced in  
2019 with this equipment, she would rather things go slowly and get where they need to go, than  
make quick decisions to get it deployed and have a problem because several issues have been  
diagnosed along the way. Ms. Zerwin said part of the delay was the change of personnel, some of  
which has been very productive. She said having DU-COMM Technician Erik Maplethorpe has  
been very advantageous to the review of some of the equipment as well as a more direct member  
of the team. She concluded saying the challenge with AT&T is that they have the NG9-1-1  
network, they are our competitive local exchange carrier, our 9-1-1 carrier, they are a channel  
partner with some of the major equipment so as much as we try to diversify, we get landlocked  
into those divisions. She said it is a challenge to keep the relationship positive but get where we  
need to go. Member Guttman said that was very helpful and said when he was first appointed he  
had made some noise about compelling AT&T and Comcast, the utilities, to perform and while  
he is glad Ms. Zerwin is satisfied, he senses frustration and thinks the next time a large contract  
comes around, to work with the State's Attorney's Office to see what kind of changes can be  
made to compel or influence to minimize this from happening in the future. He said that West  
Chicago has been successful on a much smaller scale and he did not know if those solutions  
would work on these larger contracts but it is something to pay attention to as we move into the  
next working relationship with these companies.  
Chair Schwarze asked the Members if there were any further questions or comments, to which  
there were none.  
10.  
11.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
NEW BUSINESS  
Chair Schwarze said it was time of year again for the Ad Hoc Finance Committee to begin  
discussions. He said Ms. Kraus would send out an inquiry email and that any Board Member  
interested in becoming part of the Ad Hoc Finance Committee please respond. The Committee  
will be seated at the next ETS Board meeting. Member Franz indicated that he would not be  
participating this year. There was no other new business.  
12.  
EXECUTIVE SESSION  
12.A. Minutes Review Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C) (21)  
12.B. Personnel Matters Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C ) (1)  
12.C. Security Procedures and the Use of Personnel and Equipment Pursuant to 5 ILCS  
12.D. Pending Litigation Matters Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C) (11)  
MATTERS REFERRED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION  
ADJOURNMENT  
13.  
14.  
14.A. Next Meeting: Wednesday, May 8 at 9:00am in 3-500B  
Chair Schwarze asked for a motion to adjourn. Vice Chair motioned, seconded by Member  
Guttman. The meeting of the ETSB was adjourned at 9:36am.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Jean Kaczmarek