421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
Monday, January 6, 2025  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone Board  
Lou Hayes, Jr, Hinsdale PD  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM  
John Nebl, OHSEM  
Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office (Remote)  
Matt Beyer, Bloomingdale Fire (Remote)  
Scott Bukovic, Westmont PD (Remote)  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
Tom Gallahue, ILEAS (Remote)  
Alison Murphy, DMMC (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
Jason Norton, Darien PD (Remote)  
PJ Youker, Wheaton PD (Remote)  
Lisle-Woodridge Fire (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Selvik, Benjamin, Clark, Fleury, and Jansen were present, which  
constituted a quorum. Member Burmeister was absent.  
Selvik, Benjamin, Clark, Fleury, and Jansen  
Burmeister  
PRESENT  
ABSENT  
3.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
4.  
5.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK  
Chair Selvik welcomed Member Jansen to his first meeting.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
6.  
7.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
7.A.1.  
7.B.1.  
7.C.1.  
DEDIR System November Maintainer Report  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Chris Clark  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
Tyler Benjamin  
DEDIR System December Maintainer Report  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Tyler Benjamin  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
Chris Clark  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, November 4, 2024  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
RESULT:  
Chris Clark  
MOVER:  
Craig Jansen  
SECONDER:  
8.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
8.A.1.  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.11: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System) WAVE. (PAC Recommendation  
to approve as amended: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Chair Selvik asked the Members if they had a chance to review the changes that was  
emailed. Ms. Zerwin said that typically there would be a motion to discuss the policy  
changes at the first meeting and then tabled to a date certain to allow for discussion at the  
respective committees/focus groups and then brought forward for recommendation of  
approval to the ETS Board. She said there is no intent to approve today; that it is not on  
the ETSB agenda for Wednesday’s meeting. Ms. Zerwin said that with the Ordinance  
changes to align with State statutes, the policies will be reviewed for compliance. Ms.  
Kraus brought the redline version of the policy on screen as Ms. Zerwin reviewed the  
changes that were made to the policy and the STARCOM application forms.  
Discussion ensued regarding the capacity of the current WAVE system versus the  
upcoming WAVE system and the authority of the PAC, versus Motorola, to set  
parameters regarding capacity, the ability of individual users to make changes within their  
agency profile. This in turn provided agencies with the ability to change their radio alias  
which is concerning as those changes must be made to align within the radio system and  
are made through a helpdesk ticket assigned to the radio system manager. Member Clark  
questioned whether DuPage has the authority to restrict DEDIR System access to  
agencies within the state. Ms. Zerwin said the assumption would be that if DuPage  
ETSB has an agreement with an agency outside of the DEDIR System for its talkgroups,  
then those permissions would extend to WAVE. Member Fleury said the WAVE app  
mirrors the radios, that any requested talkgroup through WAVE would also be in the  
radios. Chair Selvik said having changes to the WAVE application come through as a  
helpdesk ticket may eliminate users obtaining access to talkgroups in WAVE beyond  
what it is their radio template. Member Fleury said the application is specific as to what  
can be accessed, that you must have the talkgroup ID. The outstanding questions for  
discussion with Motorola were the restriction of talkgroups in WAVE, restricting of  
WAVE versus talkgroups for outside agencies, and does encryption extend to the WAVE  
app. The consensus was to have a Motorola representative talk to the PAC about their  
questions.  
Member Fleury made a motion to table this item to the next meeting on February 3,  
seconded by Member Benjamin. On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion  
carried.  
Attachments:  
TABLED  
RESULT:  
Colin Fleury  
Tyler Benjamin  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
9.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
9.A. Police  
9.A.1. Encryption Update  
Ms. Zerwin said there is a long list of outside agencies with access to the DEDIR System and the  
question of which agencies have Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) will be answered by  
Motorola so the number of keys can be determined for the programming of the fire radios. Ms.  
Zerwin said the encryption plan proposal that had been brought forward to the ETS Board had  
been approved and that staff were working with Motorola on parts of that plan until input from  
the focus groups is needed. Ms. Zerwin asked to continue her update with Agenda Item 9.B. Fire  
before the Real Time Crime Center discussion.  
9.A.2. Real Time Crime Center Requests  
Chair Selvik said requests have been made from the Hinsdale and Schaumburg for Command  
Central access to officers’ GPS location for their Real Time Crime Center (RTCC). Chair Selvik  
said he invited Sergeant Lou Hayes from Hinsdale PD to discuss the request. Chair Selvik said it  
sounds like a fantastic idea but there are questions regarding personnel viewing other agencies’  
officers’ locations and turned the discussion of the saturation patrols over to Sgt. Hayes. Sgt.  
Hayes said he has been involved in the creation of RTCCs in DuPage County and he thinks the  
term Crime Center is not appropriate as they have done a lot more work in support of the fire  
department responses and that they are more like Emergency Operations Centers. Sgt. Hayes  
described the work these teams are doing and agencies they are supporting on a nightly basis and  
how they learned of Command Central’s mapping leading to the request to share mapping and  
create a one stop shop to map out locations of responders in the field. Chair Selvik asked for  
any questions. Discussion ensued around how responders could maintain communication  
without sharing location information, such as investigation teams, the ability to use advanced  
technology for the safety of officers versus privacy concerns, the absence of security features of  
the system such a multi-factor authentication and whitelisting, and concerns that anyone with a  
login and password can access the system, including staff made up of non-sworn personnel from  
an offsite location who could then access the home address of officers and may use that access  
inappropriately. Sgt. Hayes offered Hinsdale as a pilot for the program to figure out how to  
create radio groups or deselection of specific radios. Chair Selvik asked if Motorola could  
provide a tutorial of the service to which the other Members were in accord. Sgt. Hayes also  
offered to show the Members how the centers were operating. Chair Selvik thanked Sgt. Hayes  
for the information and discussion.  
9.B. Fire  
Ms. Zerwin said that on Wednesday’s upcoming ETS Board agenda, there is a change order for  
the exchange of the standard Remote Speaker Microphones (RSMs) for the channel select RSM  
option. She said the intent had been to execute one change order but with the holdup of the  
mobile radios, the RSMs would be ordered first. It is not a one-to-one exchange as some of the  
standard RSMs would be kept in-house in a cache because of the delays within the supply chain.  
Ms. Zerwin said the hope is for the channel selector RSMs to come in in time for radio  
programming and deployment of the fire portables.  
Ms. Zerwin reminded the Members that input on the mobile radios is still needed from the fire  
agencies. She said a list of the agencies who had not submitted their comments would be  
provided to Fire Focus for follow-up. Ms. Zerwin said representatives from the Motorola  
product groups wants to meet with Fire Focus to discuss the APX8500s if there is a next meeting  
being scheduled. Ms. Zerwin also said that the Fire Focus members have been invited to the  
ETS Board meeting for recognition for their work with the National Fire Protection Association  
(NFPA) Committee.  
Chair Selvik asked if there was a timeline for the fire portables. Ms. Zerwin said that is part of  
knowing which agencies have AES for programming the templates. Member Clark said it  
sounds like Motorola is working to facilitate the fire rollout potentially before the entire  
encryption process is finished. Ms. Zerwin said yes, to get the key slots into the radios, not that  
encryption is not important, but it is not as important to fire, if over the air encryption can be  
completed later. Member Clark said the goal is whatever it takes to get over the air updated.  
The discussion moved onto Agenda Item 9.A.2. Real Time Crime Center Requests.  
10.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Ms. Zerwin said she does not yet know which of the focus group meetings would come under the  
Open Meetings Act and that she is working out the details of formalizing the necessary meetings  
with the State’s Attorney’s Office (SAO). Member Jansen asked if the SAO had provided  
direction regarding the APX8500s. Ms. Zerwin said that was next on the list, that the radio  
opinion of cost came first.  
11.  
12.  
NEW BUSINESS  
There was no new business.  
ADJOURNMENT  
12.A. Next Meeting: Monday, February 3 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Member Benjamin made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:05am, seconded by Member  
Fleury. On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Eve Kraus