421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
Monday, April 1, 2024  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Vice Chair Johl at 8:15 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Matt Theusch, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Scott Bukovic, Westmont PD  
Eric Burmeister, ACDC  
Nick Kottmeyer, County Board  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM  
John Nebl, OHSEM  
John Sullivan, Addison Fire  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
Jim McGreal, Downers Grove PD (Remote)  
Bob Murr, College of DuPage (Remote)  
Bill Srejma, ACDC (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Johl, Benjamin, Hermes, Rivas, and Selvik were present, which  
constituted a quorum.  
Johl, Benjamin, Hermes, Rivas, and Selvik  
Dina  
PRESENT  
ABSENT  
3.  
4.  
5.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - VICE CHAIR JOHL  
There were no remarks from Vice Chair Johl.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
6.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
6.A.  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, March 4, 2024  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
RESULT:  
Michael Rivas  
Roy Selvik  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
6.B.  
DEDIR System March Maintainer Report  
On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Sherianne Hermes  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tyler Benjamin  
SECONDER:  
7.  
DEDIR SYSTEM PORTABLES AND MOBILES  
7.A. DEDIR System Talk Group Access  
Deputy Director Theusch referenced the memorandum that was distributed to the Members. He  
said the previous PAC membership had talked about providing access to the adjacent agencies.  
Mr. Theusch said that as the plan for encryption is being finalized, the memorandum is coming  
before the PAC for additional discussion. He reviewed the recommendations from the  
memorandum:  
1. Following the policy, agencies granted access on DEDIR System prior to 2023 should be  
granted access to InterOp1-8 (9). They may reapply for additional talk groups with justification.  
ETSB has been working with several agencies for access renewal and can provide their  
applications based on the policy.  
2. If the PAC wants to expand access, DU STWD and DU COWD talk groups could also be  
considered as additional talk groups to the standard InterOps 1-8 (9). Mr. Theusch said the talk  
groups being utilized for saturation patrols on a day to day basis should also be considered.  
3. Outside agencies that participate in MERIT and other specialized activities will not have to  
reapply so long as they have continued participation.  
4. ETSB Staff will update the application form to reflect AES encryption, MERIT participation,  
and any other recommendations from PAC.  
Mr. Theusch asked if there were any specific questions in regard to the memorandum, to which  
there were none.  
Mr. Benjamin said he thought the DuPage Statewide and DuPage Countywide should be  
included in the standard package as DU-COMM is frequently switching agencies to those talk  
groups for large incidents and he believed they would be beneficial. The other Members  
concurred.  
7.B. Police  
7.B.1. Encryption Update  
Member Rivas said there was a joint meeting scheduled with ACDC and DU-COMM on April 4  
to discuss what encryption looks like at the consolette level. He said equipment may be on the  
way for both PSAPs. Mr. Theusch added that ETSB had a preliminary meeting with Motorola to  
set timelines for the equipment for the new consoles.  
7.B.2. HB4339 Update  
Member Rivas said that as of last night it still showed in Executive Committee and is status quo,  
there has been no update online.  
7.C. Fire  
Vice Chair Johl said he has no update from the Fire Focus Group regarding the radios.  
7.C.1. NFPA Update  
Mr. Theusch asked Mr. Sullivan if he had anything to report. Mr. Sullivan said the official  
members of the committee would be voted in in April, but that progress has been made with the  
committee. Mr. Theusch added that ETSB met with Motorola while Mr. Sullivan and Mr.  
Connolly were present at the NFPA meeting in Florida. Mr. Theusch said that Motorola is  
working through the recommendations from the committee meeting to provide a timeline.  
8.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
8.A.  
Resolution to approve access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch Interoperable Radio  
System talk groups pursuant to Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System), as requested by the Northlake  
Police Department.  
A motion was made by Member Benjamin, seconded by Member Rivas. Vice Chair Johl  
said that if the request is approved today, it would be pending the 14-day notification to  
the agencies which will end on April 9. Mr. Theusch referred back to the adjacent agency  
access discussion earlier in the meeting regarding access to InterOps 1-8 (9). Mr.  
Benjamin said Northlake PD had requested specific talk groups, as well, Bensenville and  
Elmhurst. Vice Chair Johl said that would be part of the approval, whether Northlake  
would be approved for the additional talk groups. Mr. Theusch said access would be the  
designated InterOps 1-8 (9) as there is no specific justification for the additional talk  
groups. Mr. Benjamin said the PAC was provided a letter of sponsorship from Elmhurst  
and is it easier to approve them now or wait for a letter from Bensenville. Mr. Theusch  
said that would be at the discretion of the PAC. A short discussion ensued. A motion  
was made by Member Rivas, seconded by Member Benjamin to amend and approve the  
request pending a letter of sponsorship from Bensenville PD. On voice vote, all  
Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL  
Michael Rivas  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tyler Benjamin  
SECONDER:  
9.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Mr. Theusch referenced a DEDIR System Memorandum distributed at the meeting dated October  
3, 2022 in which the PAC provided recommendations for radio replacement and deployment  
plan to the ETS Board. Mr. Theusch said there had been a request from a couple village  
managers to provide an update of deployment of encryption in the radios. Mr. Theusch said  
there needed to be updates in terms of where we are within the phases provided. Phase I is  
complete; the radios are out with the third touch template. He said Phase II included the new  
Ops and Tactical talk groups. Mr. Theusch said some of the plan was dependent upon  
deployment of the new Fire radios and that there would be updates made based on where we are  
now. He said the update would be provided to the PAC for review. He asked for any insight or  
comments from the Members who are involved in the processes.  
Member Rivas said, for discussion, in the Police Focus Group they have been deciding on  
encryption would be the main band, the backup (local) channel, and four (4) of the InterOp  
channels, and that once they are out there, he believed it would take care of 80% of any issues  
with encryption. He said ancillary channels need to be figured out as it is a complicated puzzle.  
Mr. Benjamin said that DU-COMM is opposed to the renaming of the fire channels and he  
understood that had been approved as part of the recommendation but if the PAC is revisiting the  
memorandum, then it would be a topic of discussion on DU-COMM's side. Member Rivas  
asked if moving forward Member Benjamin would be opposed to any naming changes on the  
police side, as well. Member Benjamin recalled that he believed the police naming conventions  
were remaining similar to what they currently are. Member Rivas answered that he believed it  
was still up for discussion. Member Benjamin said DU-COMM does not see the value in  
renaming the channels, generally, and if police are still on the table, DU-COMM does not see the  
purpose of that. He said he is open to hearing the purpose, but that DU-COMM does not see it.  
Member Rivas said it came down to standardization between the ACDC naming of 1 through 4  
and the geographical naming on the DU-COMM side. Member Rivas said with equipment  
coming for both PSAPs, he thought it the ideal time to get the changes seriously addressed and/or  
approved if recommended by the PAC. Member Benjamin said maybe they could talk more and  
he could get more background. Mr. Theusch said it was also to line up the Ops with the  
principle talk groups and provided an example. Vice Chair Johl added that upon expansion or  
breaking off of channels, the movement of agencies would not be geographically located within  
the name, it would be by number, that it is very simple. Member Rivas said an S or Z like  
pattern through the County kind of following the geographical locations is one of the thoughts  
that surround it. Member Benjamin said he would want to look at it more and talk more directly  
with people, that the idea of expanding or contracting, he understands the point but the value of a  
naming convention in that case would depend on where that expanding or contracting was taking  
place, that it may make sense or not. He said the PAC does not need to take a lot of time on this  
and that he could talk to the Chiefs more separately in compliance with the Open Meetings Act  
to obtain more information. Mr. Theusch said this is under Old Business but that the naming  
conventions have already been decided and part of the plan going forward so the  
recommendation would be updated based on where we are within the phases, not adjudicating  
whether the changes are warranted. He said it is at the discretion of the PAC to make changes  
but that this had already been decided. Member Benjamin said it was decided as a portion of this  
policy that the PAC is now revisiting. Mr. Theusch said it was being updated to provide the  
current status of where we are within the phases and provided an example of Phase I, that it has  
been completed. Mr. Theusch said the plan would be looked at to see if there is anything we  
know today that was not known then and needs to be adjusted but that the bigger picture path is  
not changing; it has already been voted on. Member Rivas said part of the discussion was that  
when the new equipment arrives that it would be the best time to begin renaming those talk  
groups as part of the integration with the hardware and software, and that training for both  
PSAPs would need to fall prior to that time. Member Rivas asked Mr. Theusch if the village  
managers’ questions were regarding encryption, Mr. Theusch answered yes, Member Rivas  
continued saying they are trying to move that along as quickly as possible. Member Hermes said  
the PAC had also decided that historically, for this document, it was in the format of a phased  
plan and that in Phase II the PD Ops and FD Ops are established and the change would fall  
within the final phase. She said it is a tiered process so not a slam to all of them; that ACDC is  
in the same position of having to do training, as well. Member Rivas added that his (Member  
Benjamin's) predecessor had asked that naming convention changes be one of the last items to be  
addressed. Member Rivas said encryption needs to be moved along, but that former Member  
Baarman had asked that the name changes be one of the last items, Member Hermes added the  
word "gradual", within the plan.  
Vice Chair Johl asked if there was any further discussion, to which there was none.  
10.  
11.  
NEW BUSINESS  
There was no new business.  
ADJOURNMENT  
11.A. Next Meeting: Monday, May 6 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Member Rivas made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:37am, seconded by Member Selvik.  
On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Eve Kraus