421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
Monday, September 9, 2024  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
Selvik, Johl, Burmeister, Clark, and Fleury  
Benjamin  
PRESENT  
REMOTE  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting  
Member Matt Theusch, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC  
Nick Kottmeyer, County Board Office  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM  
Bill Srejma, ACDC  
John Sullivan, Addison Fire  
Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office (Remote)  
Zach Finfrock, Clarendon Hills PD (Remote)  
Anthony Macaluso, Itasca PD (Remote)  
Allison Murphy, DMMC (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
Tom Stefanson, Woodridge PD (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Selvik, Benjamin (Remote, 8:17am), Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, and Johl  
were present, which constituted a quorum.  
3.  
4.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR DINA  
Chair Selvik acknowledged the service of the previous PAC Chair Dina and Member Rivas and  
welcomed new Members Clark and Fleury.  
5.  
6.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
Member Benjamin entered the meeting remotely at 8:17am.  
Chair Selvik stated a request that was made to allow remote participation for Member Benjamin.  
Under Section 7a of the Open Meetings Act, If a quorum of the members of the public body is  
physically present as required by Section 2.01, a majority of the public body may allow a  
member of that body to attend the meeting by other means if the member is prevented from  
physically attending because of: (I) personal illness or disability; (ii) employment purposes or the  
business of the public body; or (iii) a family or other emergency. A motion was made by Vice  
Chair Johl, seconded by Member Clark to allow Member Benjamin to remotely participate via  
Zoom. On voice vote, motion carried.  
Chair Selvik asked for a motion to combine Consent Agenda Items A/ Minutes Approval Policy  
Advisory Committee for August 5; B/DEDIR System July Maintainer Report - Corrected;  
C/DEDIRS System August Maintainer Report. Member Burmeister motioned, seconded by Vice  
Chair Johl. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
Chair Selvik asked for a motion to approve Consent Agenda Items A/ Minutes Approval Policy  
Advisory Committee for August 5; B/DEDIR System July Maintainer Report - Corrected;  
C/DEDIRS System August Maintainer Report. Vice Chair Johl motioned, seconded by Member  
Burmeister. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
6.A.  
6.B.  
6.C.  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, August 5, 2024  
Attachments:  
DEDIR System July Maintainer Report - Corrected  
Attachments:  
DEDIR System August Maintainer Report  
Attachments:  
APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA  
Pat Johl  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Eric Burmeister  
Selvik, Johl, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, and Fleury  
7.  
COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
7.A.  
Clarendon Hills Fire WAVE Application  
Ms. Zerwin said that WAVE applications per the policy could be approved by PAC, they  
do not require approval from the ETS Board. Ms. Zerwin explained that since ETSB is  
the STARCOM agency, applications come up through the ETSB process before the  
application is submitted for STARCOM processing and confirmed there is zero cost to  
ETSB, the monthly charges are paid by the agency requesting access. It was also  
confirmed there are three (3) users requesting access from Clarendon Hills Fire.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Chris Clark  
Pat Johl  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
8.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
8.A.  
Police and Fire Templates  
Chair Selvik said there were templates sent out with the agenda for police and fire that  
came from the focus groups. Chair Selvik said that the version that went out to the Police  
Chiefs Association was a previous version that has been adjusted. He said the goal would  
be to have the templates recommended for approval by the October ETS Board meeting.  
Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion. Vice Chair Johl spoke for the Fire Focus  
Group and said they recommended many of the changes at their last meeting but that the  
template was not really done until this last week as they were waiting on the Police Focus  
template to be completed, as well. He said there is a Fire Focus meeting after the PAC  
today and asked that the item be tabled until the next PAC meeting so this could again be  
reviewed by Fire Focus, operations, PSAPs, and Chiefs to ensure all parties are good with  
the revisions.  
Chair Selvik said the Police Focus Group would most likely also have another meeting,  
that the template had been run through ACDC member agencies and said Chief Fleury  
had had discussions with DU-COMM member agencies. Chair Selvik thought a final  
round of Focus Group discussions would be sufficient to have this item ready for  
October.  
Member Benjamin said there were two minor changes being requested by the DuPage  
County Sheriff’s Office but that if this was being tabled to go through the focus groups,  
they could be dealt with there. Ms. Zerwin said if he knows the changes, it would be best  
to make them now so the changes can be discussed and reviewed by all parties. Member  
Fleury said there would be a request to close the investigative channels and inquired  
through whom the request would come, through ETSB or through DU-COMM, would it  
be approved by the PAC? Ms. Zerwin said it was an operational question but there  
would most likely be an overarching ETSB policy but would go through the PSAPs  
operationally. Chair Selvik said this request should be included with the PAC’s  
recommendation. The discussion went back to the channel the Sheriff’s Office was  
asking to change and it was noted that both changes were already reflected in the most  
current version of the templates. Chair Selvik asked Member Benjamin if there were any  
other changes. Member Benjamin responded that he believed those were the only two  
from the Sheriff.  
Chair Selvik inquired if there were any questions from any agencies who were attending  
the meeting online. Chief Stefanson from Woodridge PD responded that the templates  
looked good to him. Member Connolly referenced the Sheriff’s request from above and  
said any requested changes should keep in mind the difficulties of Viqi, the voice  
command module of the APXNext model radios, to recognize complicated naming  
conventions.  
Ms. Zerwin mentioned that between this meeting and the October meeting, Mr. Theusch  
would be holding a DEDIR System podcast and the templates would be an agenda item  
for agencies to ask questions. Ms. Zerwin also said that to add to Mr. Connolly’s  
comment regarding Viqi’s limitations, what the name looks like and how it is spoken can  
be different so adjustments may need to be made because of spacing limitations and such.  
A discussion ensued on the names and how they are read in terms of policy,  
standardization, and ease of use, and how the recommendation to the ETS Board would  
allow for the PAC and focus groups to adjust, as needed, to make operational corrections  
within the spirit of the templates.  
Member Clark inquired into whether under encryption the agencies with question marks  
needs to be completed before approval. Chair Selvik felt the naming conventions need to  
be completed and it would be ideal to have them ironed out, but not necessary. Vice  
Chair Johl asked that whatever channels fire would have access to that will be encrypted  
be spelled out so they know where these channels will fall within their templates and the  
fire radios can be programmed correctly and rolled out.  
Ms. Zerwin asked if there could be discussion on outside agency access to encryption and  
Northwest Central Dispatch (NWCD) agencies moving to encryption on the fire side.  
Vice Chair Johl began the discussion saying a communication had been received from the  
Chief of Elk Grove Village because of police officer safety concerns as people are  
listening to the fire channels and tracking the movement of police on fire calls. He said  
NWCD would like to move in that direction but had not yet taken those steps, but that  
encryption would need to be shared both ways between the bordering agencies and  
NWCD. Ms. Zerwin said DuPage has the capabilities to move to encryption with  
NWCD, but that other outside agencies with access for mutual aid on any of the borders  
of DuPage are not yet equipped to move to encryption on the fire side along with DuPage  
and that difficulties will be encountered. Mr. Connolly said that there were two new joint  
secure ops channels created for fire so that there was a secure place for fire and police to  
work together to minimize this issue. He continued saying that half the Interops and  
Unifieds were proposed to be encrypted so users could be moved to the encrypted  
channels and when outside agencies have that capability, they could join. Mr. Connolly  
said this is a partial solution and how well this works operationally will need to be  
determined. Vice Chair Johl said he suggested this plan to the fire chief at NWC  
Dispatch. He said they will have the same issues as DuPage, border agencies without  
encryption they work with every day, how are they going to talk to them?  
Ms. Zerwin said this would be submitted to the ETS Board as one list as has been done in  
the past, and then tightened up to just the current talkgroup names and the revised names  
and whether they are being encrypted. Member Clark inquired into whether this list puts  
ETSB under the limit of Motorola talkgroup names where we should be. Mr. Connolly  
said this brings the count to 149 with one spare and removes one public works talkgroup,  
assuming they not keep any Countywide FD talkgroups.  
There were no further questions of comments. Vice Chair Johl made a motion to amend  
the approval and table this item until the October 7 PAC meeting. Member Fleury  
seconded the motion. On voice vote, all Members voted "Aye", motion carried.  
TABLED  
Pat Johl  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Colin Fleury  
SECONDER:  
9.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
9.A. Police  
9.A.1. Encryption Update  
Ms. Zerwin said this project has become more complicated and that assistance was asked of  
Motorola. She said a proposal had been received for review. Ms. Zerwin said it would most  
likely come through PAC in October and then the ETS Board. She said the proposal was based  
from information from the focus groups and assistance the Motorola System Manager felt he  
needs. Ms. Zerwin said that aside from the evolving encryption plan itself, the important  
question is how to roll this plan out to the police agencies as their radios are already deployed  
and the best way to key load. She said there were DEDIR System representatives trained in  
encryption and they would be reviewing the proposal. Ms. Zerwin felt that paying for assistance  
would be worth encryption being rolled out the right way. She said she may try to get additional  
personnel, as well, to assist with the process, but that it may depend on the mobile situation. Ms.  
Zerwin was unsure of whether this could be completed by the end of this year and that finalizing  
the encryption plan is part of that process. She said there is a question of whether this service  
proposal would be part of the radio change order or a new contract paid separately. Chair Selvik  
felt that any outstanding questions could be cleared up with the focus groups and spelled out in  
time for the October meeting.  
9.B. Fire  
There was nothing further to discuss.  
10.  
11.  
12.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
NEW BUSINESS  
There was no new business.  
ADJOURNMENT  
12.A. Next Meeting: Monday, October 7 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Vice Chair Johl made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:46am, seconded by Member Clark.  
On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Eve Kraus