421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
Monday, April 7, 2025  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Andres Gonzalez, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
John Nebl, OHSEM (Remote)  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC (Remote)  
Abigail Medina, ACDC (Remote)  
Scott Bukovic, Westmont PD (Remote)  
Jim McGreal, Downers Grove PD (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, Jansen and Selvik were present,  
which constituted a quorum.  
Selvik, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, and Jansen  
PRESENT  
3.  
4.  
5.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIR'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK  
There were no remarks from Chair Selvik.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
6.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
6.A.  
DEDIR System March Maintainer Report  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tyler Benjamin  
SECONDER:  
6.B.  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, March 3, 2025  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Tyler Benjamin  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
7.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
7.A.  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System). (PAC Recommendation to  
approve as amended: 4 Ayes, 1 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Burmeister made a motion to discuss this item, seconded by Member Fleury.  
Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Ms. Zerwin said the team was still working on collecting the remaining encryption keys  
and conducting an internal audit. She said preparations were underway for issuing access  
letters related to current access agreements, and suggested Police Focus Group level  
should be included in this process of deciding whether access to these encryption keys  
will be included. Ms. Zerwin said both policies were listed on the agenda in case changes  
or actions were needed. She said policy language had changed over time to reflect  
updates and special use cases, and that these changes also affected how talk groups were  
distributed and used. Ms. Zerwin said there needed to be a clear direction before sending  
letters to agencies with access agreements.  
Ms. Zerwin said consistent guidance was needed from the PAC to help with planning and  
coordination. She said there were operational considerations, such as changes in talk  
group structures because of practices like saturation patrols and interop channel  
deployments. She said there are “Static 205s” for agencies that should be reviewed for the  
name change recommendations and how talk groups would be assignments during  
events. She said clear guidelines to avoid operational challenges were especially  
important when AES encryption is involved. Ms. Zerwin said before letters to agencies  
with current access to the system went out from ETSB she wanted guidance in the policy  
to ensure that deployment was consistent in the future no matter who was on the PAC.  
She talked about the other policies for  
a special use cases, including MERIT, and  
access by schools within the DEDIR System, NShe said a second round of letters did not  
need to go out right away but recommended establishing criteria for evaluating future  
applications consistently. She said changes to the talk group structure would need a clear  
process to avoid conflicting with PSAP operational processes and the guidance should  
reflect this to ensure consistency.  
Ms. Zerwin reviewed a memorandum with recommendations, including creating written  
guidelines to support long-term consistency and revised Memorandum of Understanding  
(MOU). She said Grundy County used fillable forms to collect encryption-related  
information and said something similar could work for DuPage.  
She said ETSB has some agencies waiting to finalize access requests based on these  
policy adjustments and that it was possible final changes would not be ready by May.  
Chair Selvik asked about the timeline for resolving these issues. Ms. Zerwin said the next  
step was reviewing which agencies currently had encryption keys and identifying if any  
were missed earlier. She said agreements were already in place with those agencies, but  
cleanup might be needed. She said PAC should make policy changes before letters were  
sent out and said the letters would explain the process for agencies as encryption was  
introduced.  
Chair Selvik asked if PAC approval was needed to collect final encryption keys from  
agencies not already included. He also asked if the memorandums and recommendations  
from Mr. Connolly should go to the Police and Fire Focus Groups or stay with the  
committee. He asked whether Static 205 instructions should be unified or separate for  
police and fire and whether to send the issue back to the focus groups.  
Ms. Zerwin deferred to Members Burmeister and Benjamin and said she would rely on  
them for input, since practices could vary by agency and PSAP. Member Burmeister said  
that police and fire operations would likely be quite different due to mutual aid  
differences. He said this would not cause major problems for training. Member Benjamin  
said the topic was better suited for focus groups. He asked if the DUCALL talk group  
was in use and whether agencies had access to it. Member Burmeister said his consoles  
did not. Member Benjamin said he had not had enough time to review the issue in full.  
He said only manager consoles could patch channels and that telecommunicators could  
not. He said the issue was not ready for a decision and should go to the focus groups.  
Chair Selvik asked if the direction everyone was thinking was to bring the matter back to  
the focus groups. Member Burmeister responded, yes.  
Chair Selvik recognized Mr. Connolly. Mr. Connolly said the topic had been discussed  
for five years and that opinions had changed. He said police wanted encryption for officer  
safety, while fire departments had different needs. He said a split approach could work,  
with more restrictions for police and more flexibility for fire. Mr. Connolly said he had  
shared a document that categorized 160 outside talk groups into three groups: those never  
to be shared, those that could be shared in special cases, and those that could be shared  
more freely. He said some talk groups, like the bridge or town channels, might be  
intended for internal use. Mr. Connolly said that while fire and police often requested  
access to outside agencies’ talk groups, they sometimes hesitated to reciprocate, which  
sent a mixed message to partners. He concluded by stating that finding this balance was  
key and encouraged PAC members to consider these philosophies.  
Chair Selvik asked Ms. Zerwin whether reciprocal agreements were part of ETSB’s  
suggestions. Ms. Zerwin said some agreements were reciprocal, but not all were. She said  
consistent guidelines would help with rolling out the policy and explaining it to agencies.  
Chair Selvik asked for any questions. Vice Chair Clark said special use cases might  
happen more often than expected and said a structure was needed to manage them  
effectively.  
Ms. Zerwin agreed and said a clear process was needed. She said an outside agency might  
transmit on a talk group and confuse telecommunicators, especially if there was not  
active incident requiring outside agencies using that group. She referred to Member  
Benjamin’s earlier comment about patching and said that the issue needed to be  
addressed. She said guidance was needed for using Interop talk groups and DUCALL to  
keep things consistent.  
Ms. Zerwin also asked whether assigning specific talk groups to specific agencies would  
help and whether outside agencies had access to the same channels, such as perimeter ops  
talk groups. She noted that if a consistent perimeter talk group was used across the county  
but outside agencies lacked access to it, issues could arise during an event. She suggested  
reviewing Static 205s to ensure alignment with updated talk group names and asked  
whether any such reviews had been conducted. Member Burmeister said a review had  
been done two years ago. Member Benjamin said his Static 205s existed but was not sure  
when they were last reviewed.  
Chair Selvik said there seemed to be an agreement to table both policies and send them  
back to the focus groups, with the goal of bringing them back to the committee in May  
for final decisions, provided focus group meetings could be held in the next few weeks.  
She said she needed to confirm this to assign tasks. Chair Selvik then asked if there was  
anything that could be approved during the current meeting without involving the focus  
groups, such as ETSB collecting final keys.  
Ms. Zerwin asked if a list existed of encryption keys from agencies not previously  
included. She said the audit found some encrypted outside talk groups and that those were  
the ones being requested. Mr. Gonzalez said agreements were in place with those  
agencies. Ms. Zerwin clarified that these were the ones currently being kept and further  
explained her earlier statement about the list. She said that during the audit, ETSB staff  
had additional questions with some agreements as to whether encryption keys were  
needed, but it was unclear if a full list of those agencies existed. She said reviewing the  
keys and making sure radios had enough space was important for major incidents.  
Chief Fleury asked if nearby agencies not included in current agreements needed to be  
considered, especially for larger events. He said statewide interop channels could be used  
instead. Member Burmeister said those channels were designed for that. Vice Chair Clark  
said day-to-day incidents might be more of a challenge than large-scale ones and said it  
was important to manage those.  
Chair Selvik said fire agencies might have more regular communication with outside  
agencies than police. He said sending the issue to the focus groups would help make sure  
nothing was missed, and that large one-time events could still use the statewide channels.  
Member Benjamin gave examples of previous incidents where regional channels were  
used effectively. He said the policies last updated in 2013 should be reviewed. Member  
Fleury said it was important to identify which agencies were not part of current  
agreements so the group could move forward clearly.  
A motion was made by Member Burmeister to table this item until the next meeting on  
Monday, May 5, seconded by Member Benjamin. On voice vote, all Members voted  
“Aye”, motion carried.  
Attachments:  
TABLED  
RESULT:  
Eric Burmeister  
Colin Fleury  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.B.  
Resolution to repeal Policy 911-005.3: Access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch  
Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System) Encrypted Talk Groups. (PAC  
Recommendation to repeal: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
A motion was made by Member Benjamin to table this item until the next meeting on Monday,  
May 5, seconded by Member Burmeister. On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion  
carried.  
Attachments:  
TABLED  
RESULT:  
Tyler Benjamin  
Eric Burmeister  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.C.  
April DEDIR System Update  
Ms. Zerwin said the report summarized activities from the past month from the posted  
update, including information from the Fire Focus Group and encryption discussions. She  
said the only new information that she had that was not in the report was to clarify that  
Northwest Central Dispatch planned to implement fire encryption in August or  
September.  
Ms. Zerwin said Motorola held an internal meeting on encryption, but no updates had  
been received yet. She said firmware updates for multi-chargers had been completed and  
that single chargers were still under review. Ms. Zerwin said work on the fire templates  
was ongoing, with 29 document submissions under review. She said the main focus was  
on encryption keys and that 82 radios still needed firmware updates. Ms. Zerwin said  
completing these updates was important so Motorola could move forward with system  
migration. She also said efforts were being made to track radios more accurately and  
asked agencies to report any unaccounted for purchases. Ms. Zerwin said this reminder  
would also be included in an upcoming podcast.  
Chair Selvik asked if agencies without assigned radios should submit a Zendesk ticket.  
Ms. Zerwin said yes and said some agencies had already used Zendesk to report inventory  
changes, such as returning chargers or radios because of lower headcount. Ms. Zerwin  
explained returned radios were maintained and redeployed as needed when headcount  
increased.  
Ms. Zerwin said there were challenges with maintaining the radio cache because of  
increased hiring and repairs. She said a final change order was still pending to address the  
issue.  
Attachments:  
7.D. Police  
7.E. Fire  
8.  
9.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
NEW BUSINESS  
Ms. Zerwin said Chiefs Selvik, Clark and Mr. Eric Burmeister would be appointed to the PAC  
on the ETS Board meeting on Wednesday. She also mentioned announcements related to TC  
Week. She said there would be Text-to-911 official launch announcements for the County Board  
and ETSB on Tuesday and Wednesday.  
Mr. Burmeister asked about the activation of Text-to-911 since April 1. Ms. Zerwin explained it  
had been active for a couple of months but had not been publicized yet. Mr. Benjamin said  
carriers were still conducting testing to make the service official, even though it was already  
active. Vice Chair Clark said the system had been working for some time. Mr. Benjamin said  
carriers that had finished testing were functioning properly.  
Chair Selvik said the County planned to release the announcement the next day and would  
coordinate with PSAPs for a unified Text-To-911 release. Ms. Zerwin said a media kit was sent  
to agencies and included a press release template, website text, and links to the ETSB website.  
She said the public-facing information would go live the next day and encouraged agencies to  
test connectivity to the website before releasing their press statements. Vice Chair Clark asked if  
there was any reason agencies could not publicize the information the next day. Ms. Zerwin said  
everyone should be able to move forward.  
Ms. Zerwin shared a list of agencies with encryption keys. Chair Selvik asked if the list  
contained items that needed review. Ms. Zerwin said it included both completed and pending  
items that needed guidance for talk group distribution. She said some one-off cases were  
event-related and said guidance would be developed for interoperability requests.  
10.  
ADJOURNMENT  
10.A. Next Meeting: Monday, May 5 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Vice Chair Clark made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:52am, seconded by Member  
Benjamin. On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Andres Gonzalez