421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee  
Final Summary  
www.dupagecounty.gov  
Monday, May 5, 2025  
8:15 AM  
Room 3500A  
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1.  
2.  
CALL TO ORDER  
8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik at 8:15 AM.  
ROLL CALL  
Attendees:  
Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member  
Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board (Remote)  
Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Andres Gonzalez, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board  
Jesse Gutierrez, Citizen  
Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office (Remote)  
Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC (Remote)  
Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Jim McGreal, Downers Grove PD (Remote)  
Alison Murphy, DMMC (Remote)  
Bob Murr, COD (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Jansen and Selvik were present, which  
constituted a quorum.  
Selvik, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, and Jansen  
Fleury  
PRESENT  
ABSENT  
3.  
4.  
5.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIR'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK  
There were no remarks from Chair Selvik.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
6.  
CONSENT ITEMS  
6.A.  
25-1178  
DEDIR System April Maintainer Report  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
Motorola System Manager Report April 2025.pdf  
Attachments:  
ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Craig Jansen  
SECONDER:  
6.B.  
25-1179  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, April 7, 2025  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.  
2025-04-07 PAC Minutes Summary.pdf  
Attachments:  
ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE  
Chris Clark  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
7.  
PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED  
7.A.  
ETS-R-0020-25  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System). (PAC Recommendation to  
approve as amended: 4 Ayes, 1 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Burmeister made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
by Member Jansen. Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Vice Chair Clark asked how the list of talk groups would serve as guidance and who  
would use it. Ms. Zerwin explained that the policy changes were based on  
recommendations from focus groups to allow more talk groups to be accessible outside  
the system. She said the chart would provide guidance for everyone, including the PAC,  
agencies, and users putting together static 205s. She confirmed that the process for  
outside agencies requesting access would remain the same, with PAC reviewing requests  
and making recommendations to the Board. She added that the policy would allow the  
ETSB Executive Director to authorize use of a talk group in urgent situations, which  
would later be affirmed through PAC and the ETS Board. Chair Selvik said he agreed,  
especially from the police side, that it made sense not to wait for the next PAC meeting  
for urgent operational decisions.  
Vice Chair Clark said there was a section about equipment that was unclear. He said  
many outside agencies already used Starcom equipment and asked if the policy required  
Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA) radios. Ms. Zerwin said the application asks if  
radios are TDMA and have Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) encryption, and said  
agencies need to show Starcom membership. She said not all Starcom members have  
TDMA radios. Vice Chair Clark said it was important to have fewer Frequency Division  
Multiple Access (FDMA) units to avoid clogging up the system. Ms. Zerwin said some  
radios, like DEDIR System fire radios, were not TDMA yet.  
Member Benjamin asked whether the language of the actual policy was brought to focus  
groups. Ms. Zerwin said they did not directly discuss policy in focus groups preferring to  
discuss concepts instead and incorporate feedback at the PAC level. Member Benjamin  
said he was concerned about not being an expert on how the policies interact with  
technology and had counted on focus groups for that input.  
Vice Chair Clark asked if they needed to approve the policy soon or incorporate changes  
first. Chair Selvik said sooner would be better since focus groups were not the right  
setting for reviewing policies. He added that they could always bring it back and fix  
issues later.  
Member Benjamin asked about the purpose of focus groups if they could not discuss  
policy. Chair Selvik said they were operational, focused on talk groups, templates, and  
encryption. Member Benjamin questioned how deciding who gets keys was not a policy  
decision. Ms. Zerwin and Chair Selvik said it was operational. Vice Chair Clark said  
focus groups provide operational guidance for policy but do not make it. During the  
discussion, Chair Selvik suggested Member Benjamin ask Eric Maplethorpe to weigh in.  
Mr. Maplethorpe said he did not want to comment at that time and recommended talking  
to Member Benjamin privately about the operational aspects for PSAP personnel.  
Member Benjamin said his agency does not monitor the DUCALL talk group and their  
room is too busy during major incidents to expect telecommunicators to monitor and  
patch themselves. Ms. Zerwin said the DUCALL language had been in the policy since  
December 2023, she said it was concerning that a policy in place since December 2023  
had been ignored. Ms. Zerwin said tabling the policy would not remove the DUCALL  
language from the current policy. Vice Chair Clark said he preferred to move forward  
with the changes they had discussed and address additional amendments later, rather than  
holding up improvements to sharing talk groups. Member Benjamin maintained his  
motion to table because he had not had time to review thoroughly.  
Chair Selvik called for a roll call vote on the motion to recommend approval to the ETS  
Board as discussed and amended. On roll call with four “Ayes” and one “Nay” to  
recommend approval to the ETS Board, motion carried. Member Benjamin expressed  
appreciation for the discussion, and Chair Selvik thanked everyone for their comments  
and indicated willingness to entertain further concerns in the future.  
911-005.2 Access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch Interoperable  
Radio System May 14 2025 draft PAC.pdf  
Attachments:  
911-005.2 DEDIRS Application and Confidentiality Agreement  
Fillable Form draft.pdf  
Outside Agency CKR MOU May 14 2025.pdf  
DEDIRS TG Recommendations for Outside PD & FD Agencies  
050125.pdf  
APPROVED AS AMENDED  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Craig Jansen  
Selvik, Burmeister, Clark, and Jansen  
Benjamin  
NAY:  
Fleury  
ABSENT:  
7.B.  
ETS-R-0021-25  
Resolution to repeal Policy 911-005.3: Access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch  
Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System) Encrypted Talk Groups. (PAC  
Recommendation to repeal: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Benjamin made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
by Vice Chair Clark. Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Ms. Zerwin said repealing this policy was necessary because encryption was now  
incorporated into Policy 911-005.2.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board,  
motion carried.  
911-005.3 Access to the DEDIRS Encrypted Talk Groups  
ETS-R-0014-18 executed_Redacted.pdf  
Attachments:  
APPROVED AT COMMITTEE  
Tyler Benjamin  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Chris Clark  
SECONDER:  
7.C.  
ETS-R-0022-25  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.9: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System) Non-Public Safety Schools. (PAC  
Recommendation to approve as amended: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Burmeister made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
by Member Benjamin. Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Vice Chair Clark said there were concerns about the language encouraging schools to hire  
retired police officers for security. He said he was unsure if the ETS Board should be  
involved in employment decisions and said that recommendation seemed outside their  
role. Chair Selvik said there could be value in having radio users familiar with proper  
etiquette to avoid unnecessary radio traffic, but he agreed they should not dictate  
employment choices. He said it might be better to require some level of radio  
understanding instead.  
Vice Chair Clark said that the required training should cover radio use and said it seemed  
odd to imply only retired police officers had that knowledge. He said the training was  
simple and questioned why the policy focused on this point. He also said there were  
concerns about language recommending schools install a BDA (Bi-Directional Antenna)  
for building coverage, saying it was a complex technical issue and questioned if the ETS  
Board should regulate it. Chair Selvik said they could amend the language to make clear  
that providing coverage was the school’s responsibility, not ETS Board’s. Ms. Zerwin  
said the policy already stated the ETS Board was not responsible for coverage issues.  
Vice Chair Clark said that language might be enough, and Ms. Zerwin said the policy was  
written to help schools understand coverage limitations and possible solutions, like using  
FirstNet for LTE coverage.  
Ms. Zerwin said another issue was whether to update the policy to define a retired police  
officer as someone with 10 or 15 years of service. Member Benjamin said that current  
law used 10 years, and Chair Selvik agreed that was correct and supported changing the  
policy language to 10 years. Chief Selvik said the motion should be to recommend  
approval to the ETS Board as amended. Vice Chair Clark said yes.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board as  
amended, motion carried.  
911-005.9 Access to DEDIRS Schools May 14 2025 draft PAC.pdf  
911-005.9 Attachment A School Data Sheet Fillable Form draft.pdf  
Attachments:  
APPROVED AS AMENDED  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Tyler Benjamin  
SECONDER:  
7.D.  
ETS-R-0023-25  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.10: Metropolitan Emergency Response  
and Investigation Team (MERIT) Designated Talk Groups. (PAC Recommendation to  
approve as amended: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Vice Chair Clark made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
byMember Burmeister. Chief Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Ms. Zerwin said the changes were mostly cleanup, like updating naming conventions and  
removing things not relevant to the statute. She said they could also consider removing  
references to interoperability if needed. Member Benjamin said he did not have a strong  
opinion about interoperability but said he was concerned about patching higher  
encryption to lower and said he preferred to remove the DUCALL line from the policy.  
Ms. Zerwin said DUCALL was related to hailing channels but agreed it could be  
removed since it did not really affect the merit policy. Chief Selvik said he agreed.  
Member Benjamin said just to remove the DUCALL line. Chief Selvik confirmed and  
asked if there was any further discussion. Ms. Zerwin confirmed Vice Chair Clark had  
made the motion, and Chief Selvik said they were good to go. Vice Chair Clark said yes.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board as  
amended, motion carried.  
911-005.10 MERIT Talk Groups amended May 14 2025 draft  
PAC.pdf  
Attachments:  
APPROVED AS AMENDED  
Chris Clark  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
7.E.  
ETS-R-0024-25  
Resolution to amend and approve Policy 911-005.12: Flash Message Talk Group. (PAC  
Recommendation to approve as amended: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Burmeister made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
by Member Jansen. Chief Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Ms. Zerwin said this change was just a little bit of cleanup, adding the new naming  
convention and adjacent agencies for flash. Chief Selvik said it seemed to make sense  
and asked if there were any questions.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board,  
motion carried.  
911-005.12 Flash Channel Talk Group draft.pdf  
Attachments:  
APPROVED AT COMMITTEE  
Eric Burmeister  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Craig Jansen  
SECONDER:  
7.F.  
ETS-R-0025-25  
Resolution to approve access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch Interoperable Radio  
System talk groups pursuant to Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency  
Dispatch Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System), and 911-005.9: Access to  
DEDIR System Non-Public Safety / School Security, as requested by Lake Park High  
School District 108. (PAC Recommendation to approve: 5 Ayes, 0 Nays, 1 Absent)  
Member Benjamin made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded  
by Member Burmeister. Chief Selvik opened the item for discussion.  
Vice Chair Clark said the policy should reference Policy 911-005.9 since it involved a  
school. Ms. Zerwin said the initial Policy 911-005.2 was the parent policy and they could  
amend the resolution. She explained the district had completed paperwork for both  
current and amended policies. She said the school had done both forms and needed both  
for compliance.  
On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board,  
motion carried.  
Cover Letter_Redacted.pdf  
Attachments:  
DEDIRS Access Request Lake Park HS 108_Redacted.pdf  
Letters of Support_Redacted.pdf  
APPROVED AT COMMITTEE  
Tyler Benjamin  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
Eric Burmeister  
SECONDER:  
8.  
DEDIR SYSTEM  
8.A.  
25-1225  
May DEDIR System Update  
Ms. Zerwin said they were down to three radios left for firmware update, naming  
Bensenville PD, Lombard PD, and Bartlett PD. Ms. Zerwin said she was down to four  
encryption keys. She said most agencies had filled out the new MOU forms and said most  
would just re-execute. Chief Selvik said the Police Focus Group met, updated all the  
templates, and took care of any pending issues. Vice Chair Clark said the Fire Focus  
Group met and said they pushed out the proposed template to some test radios. He said  
members were testing the template, especially for outside agencies, to ensure everything  
worked.  
DEDIR System Update - 05 2025.pdf  
Attachments:  
8.B. Police  
8.C. Fire  
9.  
OLD BUSINESS  
There was no old business.  
10.  
11.  
NEW BUSINESS  
There was no new business.  
ADJOURNMENT  
11.A. Next Meeting: Monday, June 2 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A  
Vice Chair Clark made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 9:32am, seconded by Member  
Burmeister. On voice vote, motion carried.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Andres Gonzalez