421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD

WHEATON, IL 60187

DU PAGE COUNTY

ETSB - Policy Advisory Committee

Final Summary

www.dupagecounty.gov

Monday, June 2, 2025

8:15 AM

Room 3500A

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CALL TO ORDER

8:15 AM meeting was called to order by Chair Selvik, Member Fluery arrived at 8:17 AM.

ROLL CALL

Attendees:

Linda Zerwin, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board, non-voting Member

Gregg Taormina, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board (Remote)

Eve Kraus, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board (Remote)

Andres Gonzalez, DuPage Emergency Telephone System Board

Jan Barbeau, State’s Attorney’s Office (Remote)

Michael Rodriguez, Lisle PD (Remote)

Craig Gomorczak, Lisle PD (Remote)

Marilu Hernandez, ACDC (Remote)

Erik Maplethorpe, DU-COMM (Remote)

Jim McGreal, Downers Grove PD (Remote)

Alison Murphy, DMMC (Remote)

Bob Murr, COD (Remote)

Tom Gallahue, ILEAS (Remote)

Jim Connolly, Village of Addison (Remote)

On roll call, Members Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, Jansen and Selvik were present,

which constituted a quorum.

Selvik, Benjamin, Burmeister, Clark, Fleury, and Jansen

PRESENT

PUBLIC COMMENT

There was no public comment.

CHAIR'S REMARKS - CHAIR SELVIK

There were no remarks from Chair Selvik.

MEMBERS' REMARKS

There were no Members' remarks.

CONSENT ITEMS

6.A.

25-1349

DEDIR System May Maintainer Report

On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.

Motorola System Manager Report May 2025

Attachments:

ACCEPTED AND PLACED ON FILE

Chris Clark

RESULT:

MOVER:

SECONDER:

25-1350

Eric Burmeister

6.B.

ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, May 5, 2025

On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye”, motion carried.

2025-05-05 PAC Minutes Summary

Attachments:

ETSB RECEIVED AND PLACED ON FILE

Eric Burmeister

RESULT:

MOVER:

Craig Jansen

SECONDER:

PARENT COMMITTEE APPROVAL REQUIRED

7.A.

ETS-R-0029-25

Resolution to approve Policy 911-005.2: Access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch

Interoperable Radio System (DEDIR System). (PAC Recommendation to approve: 6

Ayes, 0 Nays)

Vice Chair Clark made a motion to recommend approval to the ETS Board, seconded by

Member Burmeister. Chair Selvik opened the item for discussion.

Member Benjamin said he wanted to discuss the purpose of the recent changes and asked

what the purpose of these changes was, since Policy 911-005.2 had just been changed

three weeks earlier. Chair Selvik said the changes were mainly to clean up language about

who was monitoring DUCALL. Vice Chair Clark said he read it the same way. Chair

Selvik said last month it was discussed that DU-COMM is not monitoring DUCALL, and

Member Benjamin said they do not. Chair Selvik said the changes are to clarify that

DUCALL would be specific to ACDC agencies and to address language cleanup

recommended by Assistant State's Attorney Winistorfer.

Ms. Zerwin said that in reviewing Policy 911-005.2 at the May 14, 2025, ETS Board

meeting, Member Robb asked for changes on the floor, but other paragraphs in the policy

had language that did not match the intent and have been amended, so this revision aims

to make Policy 911-005.2 consistent with what Member Robb asked to be changed. Ms.

Zerwin said that in the InterOp Talk Groups section, language that should have been

struck remained, so it was cleaned up. Ms. Zerwin said ACDC clarified in conversations

that it would only monitor ACDC agencies, and Assistant State’s Attorney Winistorfer

made further changes for clarity and flow, including moving the Application

Modification section to the end of the Application Process.

Ms. Zerwin said these changes are meant to make the Policy 911-005.2 consistent with

what she and ASA Winistorfer believed was Member Robb's original intent and to

address ACDC's request. Ms. Zerwin referred to a Memorandum sent to PAC Members

and said with respect to the recommendations, that since the phone numbers were in the

Policy as a secondary form of contact, that information should be included directly on the

application form, as applicants will need easy access to the number if that will be the

process.

Chair Selvik asked if that answered Member Benjamin’s question, and Member

Benjamin said it did. He asked if anything besides DUCALL and patching was being

changed, and Chair Selvik said the rest was just cleanup and addressing phone numbers.

Member Benjamin said the memo mentioned clarifying the talk groups name change

transition and asked what that was related to. Ms. Zerwin said ASA Winistorfer

recommended adding language to the Policy to clarify the transition timeline, since

DUCALL is not currently active and the talk group currently operates under a different

name. She said the changes aim to avoid future revisions by establishing that, once

implemented, the new name will take effect moving forward.

Member Benjamin asked if the Focus Group’s operational recommendations and current

talk group names were included in the spreadsheets. Ms. Zerwin said yes, the

spreadsheets showed both current and future names. She said now that the Policy was

shifting to a more open approach, agencies would need to know both names during the

transition. Ms. Zerwin said agencies might label the talk groups differently on their

radios, but the spreadsheets would help them match the old and new names.

Member Fleury asked why DU-COMM did not use DUCALL. Member Benjamin said

they could not commit to monitoring it 24/7 due to staffing and workflow. Member

Fleury asked if anything could be done to improve the workflow. Member Benjamin said

that during large incidents, it is not practical to monitor a separate channel, and that

communication is usually handled by dispatchers over the phone rather than trying to

solve problems on a radio channel. He said he saw the value of DUCALL but do not have

the staff or workflow for it.

Member Fleury asked how ACDC would handle it, and Member Burmeister said they

would add it like another channel and set it to scan. Vice Chair Clark said the purpose of

the Hailing channel was to assign InterOp channels, not to call for help, and that this

could also be done by phone. Member Benjamin said actual incidents would not take

place on DUCALL, but it would be used to request patches or information. Chair Selvik

said for their agency, requests were usually handled by phone, and monitoring DUCALL

was not a big task for ACDC. Vice Chair Clark and Member Burmeister said the main

benefit was for outside agencies. Member Benjamin said the main purpose was to give

outside agencies a way to access DEDIRS channels by calling on DUCALL, but

DU-COMM was not set up for that.

Member Fleury compared it to KaneCall, which was used as an emergency channel by

everyone in Kane County, and said he had assumed DUCALL worked the same way, but

it did not.

Member Benjamin asked if the changes to the Application Modification section were

substantive or just reorganization. Ms. Zerwin said there were a few word changes but

nothing substantive, and most changes were just moving text for clarity. She said some

lines were moved to different parts of the section, and the Assistant State’s Attorney

deleted and moved sentences for better organization. She reviewed the changes for the

Committee.

Member Benjamin said he had no further questions. Chair Selvik asked if there were any

other questions about the Policy revision, then said there was a motion and a second and

called for a vote on the changes.

On voice vote, all Members voted “Aye” to recommend approval to the ETS Board,

motion carried.

911-005.2 Access to the DuPage Emergency Dispatch Interoperable

Radio System June 11 2025 draft

Attachments:

911-005.2 DEDIRS Application and Confidentiality Agreement

June 11 2025 draft

911-005.2 Attachment Outside Agency CKR MOU master draft

DEDIRS TG Recommendations for Outside PD & FD Agencies

052025 Adding NVFD1 and NV FG1

APPROVED AT COMMITTEE

Eric Burmeister

RESULT:

MOVER:

Chris Clark

SECONDER:

DEDIR SYSTEM

8.A.

25-1351

June DEDIR System Update

Ms. Zerwin said that ETSB has all the keys except for the one for Hodgkin's, because

some of the Police agencies that shared the key were resistant. She said they would move

forward without it and leave space for it, so they could keep going. She said they hoped

to get a copy of the encryption plan to review this week and offered to take any questions.

Vice Chair Clark asked about the status of the KMF that Motorola was providing, and

Ms. Zerwin said she did not have any information about it because Andy, the radio

service manager, was on vacation last week. She said she would check and let them

know. Member Benjamin asked who the plan would go to for review and if another

review was needed. Ms. Zerwin said it would be a new document and would be a first

review. When asked again who would review it, she said she did not know yet because

she had not seen it and did not know what kind of review it would need, or if it would

need a Tech Focus Group review etc. Chair Selvik said he thought they would have the

document hopefully this week.

DEDIR System Update - 06 2025

Attachments:

8.B. Police

Chair Selvik said there had been no Police Focus Group meeting and no additional updates on

the police side. He said they were waiting on the encryption plan.

8.C. Fire

Vice Chair Clark said template testing was underway and that the addition of encryption keys

would allow for more complete testing of some State channels.

OLD BUSINESS

Chief Selvik asked if there was any old business. Ms. Zerwin said that changes to the talk groups

on the MOU with Lyons Township Area Communications Center (LTACC) came though after

the agenda was posted and she wanted to present it to the PAC Members. She said LTACC had

made some adjustments to their talk groups compared to what the agreement has, and she said

the members received that information as a secondary email from Andres. She noted that

LTACC is removing certain talk groups from availability. She said the changes would have to

go through the process and be on the agenda next month. However, she said that to avoid delays,

if there was no objection, staff could remove the tactical channels now to keep the programming

going and finalize everything next month. Chief Selvik said that sounded good and asked if there

were any objections or questions. Nobody opposed. He said he thought they were good. Ms.

Zerwin said that another option was that she had signing power in the Policy and the changes

could be affirmed through the ETS Board by putting it on the agenda next week, if there were no

objections. Chief Selvik asked if anyone had an issue with that, and when no one objected, he

said they were all good. Ms. Zerwin said they would then put it on for the next week ETS Board

Meeting and move forward.

10.

11.

NEW BUSINESS

There was no new business.

ADJOURNMENT

11.A. Next Meeting: Monday, July 7 at 8:15am in Room 3-500A

Member Benjamin made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 8:40am, seconded by Member

Fleury. On voice vote, motion carried.

Respectfully submitted,

Andres Gonzalez