421 N. COUNTY FARM ROAD  
WHEATON, IL 60187  
DU PAGE COUNTY  
ETSB - Emergency Telephone System  
Board  
Final Summary  
Wednesday, May 10, 2023  
9:00 AM  
Room 3500B  
1.  
CALL TO ORDER  
9:00 AM meeting was called to order by Chairman Schwarze at 9:00 AM.  
2.  
ROLL CALL  
ETSB STAFF:  
Linda Zerwin  
Matt Theusch  
Eve Kraus  
Kris Cieplinski (Remote)  
Brian Kopas (Remote)  
COUNTY CLERK:  
Adam Johnson, Chief Deputy Clerk  
STATE'S ATTORNEY:  
Mark Winistorfer  
ATTENDEES:  
Chris Clark, Glen Ellyn Fire  
Andy Dina, Warrenville Fire  
Don Ehrenhaft, County IT  
Bill Hayden, Addison PD  
Marilu Hernandez, ACDC  
Nick Kottmeyer, County Board Office  
Sheryl Markay, County Board Office  
Anthony McPhearson, County CIO  
Chad Pierce, County Clerk Office  
Jessica Robb, DU-COMM  
Patrick Tanner, West Chicago Fire  
Matt Baarman, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Kurt Bluder, Hinsdale High School District 86 (Remote)  
Joe Breinig, DMMC (Remote)  
Todd Carlson, Hanover Park PD (Remote)  
Steve Demas, Lisle-Woodridge Fire (Remote)  
Kevin Dempsey, ACDC (Remote)  
Richard Dufort, Elmhurst Fire (Remote)  
Bret Mowery, York Center Fire (Remote)  
Bob Murr, College of DuPage (Remote)  
Nicole Lamela, DU-COMM (Remote)  
Steve Rauter, Citizen (Remote)  
Richard Sanborn, Jr., York Center Fire (Remote)  
Observer (Remote)  
On roll call, Members Schwarze, Franz, Guttman, Eckhoff, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar, Srejma,  
Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo (Remote) were present. There was one vacancy.  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, Swanson, and Tillman  
PRESENT  
REMOTE  
Yoo  
MOTION TO ALLOW REMOTE PARTICIPATION  
Chairman Schwarze called the meeting to order with a request that was made to allow remote  
participation for Member Yoo. Under Section 7a of the Open Meetings Act, If a quorum of the  
members of the public body is physically present as required by Section 2.01, a majority of the  
public body may allow a member of that body to attend the meeting by other means if the  
member is prevented from physically attending because of: (I) personal illness or disability; (ii)  
employment purposes or the business of the public body; or (iii) a family or other emergency. A  
motion was made by Member Tillman, seconded by Member Kramer to allow Member Yoo to  
remotely participate via Zoom. On voice vote, motion carried.  
3.  
4.  
5.  
6.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
There was no public comment.  
CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS - CHAIR SCHWARZE  
There were no remarks from Chairman Schwarze.  
MEMBERS' REMARKS  
There were no Members' remarks.  
CONSENT AGENDA  
Chairman Schwarze asked for a motion to combine Consent Agenda Items A/Monthly Staff  
Report; B/Revenue Report for the May 10, 2023 meeting; C/Minutes approval for PAC for April  
3, 2023; D/ Minutes approval for ETSB for April 12. Vice Chair Franz motioned, seconded by  
Member Tillman. On voice vote, all "Ayes", motion carried.  
Chairman Schwarze asked for a motion to approve Consent Agenda Items A/Monthly Staff  
Report; B/Revenue Report for the May 10, 2023 meeting; C/Minutes approval for PAC for April  
3, 2023; D/ Minutes approval for ETSB for April 12. Member Guttman motioned, seconded by  
Member Srejma. On voice vote, all "Ayes", motion carried.  
6.A. Monthly Staff Report  
Monthly Report for April 12 Regular Meeting  
Attachments:  
6.B. Revenue Report 911 Surcharge Funds  
ETSB Revenue Report for May 10 Regular Meeting for Fund 5820/Equalization  
Attachments:  
6.C. Minutes Approval Policy Advisory Committee  
ETSB PAC Minutes - Regular Meeting - Monday, April 3, 2023  
Attachments:  
6.D. Minutes Approval ETS Board  
ETSB Minutes - Regular Meeting - Wednesday, May 10, 2023  
Attachments:  
APPROVED THE CONSENT AGENDA  
Michael Guttman  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
William Srejma  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
7.  
VOTE REQUIRED BY ETS BOARD  
7.A. Resolutions  
7.A.1.  
Resolution authorizing the hiring of an ETSB Data Analyst. (Starting salary: $74,000.00)  
Ms. Zerwin said the position is pending completion of the background check. Once  
completed, there could be a start date of May 31.  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Michael Tillman  
William Srejma  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.A.2.  
Resolution declaring equipment, inventory, and/or property on Exhibit A, purchased by  
the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County as surplus equipment.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
Erik Kramer  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
7.A.3.  
Resolution approving the sale of surplus items from the County of DuPage on behalf of  
the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County to the Wyoming Community  
Fire Protection District.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED AND SENT TO FINANCE  
Michael Tillman  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Michael Guttman  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
7.A.4.  
Resolution to amend Policy 911-005.8: DEDIR System Subscriber Unit Requirements.  
Recommendation to amend and approve Policy Advisory Committee VOTE (to approve):  
6 Ayes, 0 Nays.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Michael Tillman  
Erik Kramer  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.A.5.  
Resolution to adopt Policy 911-026: Computer Aided Dispatch Interface Funds.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Eric Swanson  
Michael Guttman  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.B. Purchase Resolutions  
7.B.1.  
Awarding resolution to Intergraph Corporation, d.b.a. Hexagon Safety & Infrastructure, a  
Delaware Corporation, PO 923011 for blanket purchase order for (Total amount:  
$150,000.00) the development and maintenance of the "Edge Frontier (Xalt Interface)" to  
facilitate assistance to user agencies.  
Member Kramer asked if this item was related to software discussed at the last Fire  
Standardization meeting, another software utilizing Tablet Command. Ms. Zerwin  
responded yes, the previous agenda item was a policy regarding the interfaces of which  
ETSB has started to see more requests. She said ETSB is looking to find a better way to  
have interfaces approved. The process of receiving a proposal from Hexagon is 60-90  
days for agencies to see the costs and then to make a decision. This purchase order would  
set aside the funds which would be reimbursed by agencies. She said, a payment plan  
could be offered to the agencies to allow time if more than one fiscal year is needed to  
plan for the interface. Ms. Zerwin said there are 3-4 requests outstanding now and Tech  
Focus Group unanimously agreed they do not want tech directly connected into the  
production side of the CAD 9-1-1 System.  
Vice Chair Franz left the room at 9:06am.  
Member Kramer had only heard one agency was currently interested and asked if they  
would be on the hook for the entire $150,000 or if another agency down the road wants to  
buy in, how would that work. Member Kramer also inquired if other interface requests  
could utilize the same EdgeFrontier software or is it $150,000 every time. Ms. Zerwin  
replied the $150,000 was a benchmark, most interface costs are coming in around  
$30,000. She said there are three requests which brings the cost to approximately  
$90,000 and leaves room for a potential future interface.  
Vice Chair Franz re-entered the meeting at 9:08am.  
Ms. Zerwin continued saying in the past, with systems such as Fire Station Alerting, or  
purchasing additional radios, the output costs were known for each agency. Using  
FUSUS as an example, Ms. Zerwin stated a few outstanding questions of how the initial  
payment and reimbursement might look. She said these questions would be up for  
discussion with the Auditor's Office and State's Attorney's Office.  
Member Guttman asked how much staff time is tied up into the individual asks and is it  
enough they should be looking to re-coop those costs from the agencies. Ms. Zerwin said  
that part of the reason the recommendation is for Hexagon to develop the interfaces is  
exactly to Member Guttman's question. All personnel costs are paid by surcharge and  
these are interfaces that do not qualify for 9-1-1 surcharge.  
Vice Chair Franz left the meeting at 9:09am.  
Ms. Zerwin said that service tickets could still be monitored by staff to reset a service, if  
needed, but this would allow support for their interface separate from 9-1-1 surcharge.  
She deferred to Mr. Theusch for the amount of time spent on tech review. Mr. Theusch  
said a significant amount of time is spent internally looking at what makes the most sense  
for the system. He said going forward he believed it would be less taxing once a game  
plan is in place. Mr. Theusch said collectively, there is approximately 4-5 hours into this  
interface. Member Guttman said it should be reviewed if it becomes more burdensome  
over time.  
Member Kramer asked if each interface is $30,000, so if they were to ask for an RMS  
interface, it would be an additional $30,000 or per agency. Ms. Zerwin said the initial  
creation of the interface would be $30,000, as the first instance per the Hexagon contract,  
and the add-ons would depend on the complexity of the interface. Ms. Zerwin said a  
generic interface was being discussed with Hexagon because cost is an issue.  
Member Yoo said she was only aware of interface requests from Oak Brook and  
Oakbrook Terrace and asked who was the third. Mr. Theusch answered First Arriving  
was a request from Villa Park. Ms. Zerwin said that information may have been in a  
memo.  
Vice Chair Franz re-entered the meeting at 9:12am.  
Member Tillman asked, using FUSUS and Oak Brook as his example, that if Oak Brook  
paid the entire initial costs and an agency wanted to come in, would Oak Brook be  
reimbursed a proportionate cost from that agency. Ms. Zerwin answered she does not  
know how that would be worked out or if the County and ETSB would reach a point  
where the agencies would work it out internally. She said ETSB facilitates as much for  
the agencies as can be, but how payment/reimbursement will work will be an interesting  
question.  
Member Kramer asked if there is an annual or one-time maintenance fee. Ms. Zerwin  
replied there is an annual maintenance fee which runs around $2,500-3,000 depending on  
the interface.  
There were no further questions. On voice vote, motion passed unanimously.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
David Schar  
Eric Swanson  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.B.2.  
Awarding resolution to Insight Public Sector PO 923010 to provide 500 GTS H7038IS-LI  
portable APX7000XE radio batteries arising from Bid 23-052-ETSB. (Total amount:  
$66,330.00)  
Ms. Zerwin commented that given the length of time it has taken to deploy the fire radios  
and that batteries for the current radios are becoming available again, this purchase is to  
bridge that gap. She said the Fire Focus Group is looking at NFPA standards and there  
are agencies that have been struggling with batteries. Ms. Zerwin said any extras could  
be sold off with the re-sale of the radios to re-coop costs.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Michael Guttman  
David Schar  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.C. Budget Transfers  
7.C.1.  
Budget Transfer for the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County for  
Fiscal Year 2023 from 4000-5820-53828 (Contingencies) to 4000-5820-52250  
(Auto/Machinery Equip/Parts) for APX7000XE batteries per Bid 23-052-ETSB. (Total  
budget transfer: $70,000)  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
David Schar  
Eric Swanson  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
AYES:  
Schwarze, Franz, Eckhoff, Guttman, Kramer, Maranowicz, Schar,  
Srejma, Swanson, Tillman, and Yoo  
7.C.2.  
Budget Transfer for the Emergency Telephone System Board of DuPage County for  
Fiscal Year 2023 from 4000-5820-53828 (Contingencies) to 4000-5820-53808 (Statutory  
& Fiscal Charges) for management fees associated with ETSB investment accounts made  
through the DuPage County Treasurer's Office. (Total budget transfer: $4,243)  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Joseph Maranowicz  
Erik Kramer  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.D. Payment of Claims  
Payment of Claims for May 10, 2023 for FY23 - Total for 4000-5820 (Equalization):  
$341,232.79. Total for inter-department transfer for 4000-5820 (Equalization):  
$4,242.89.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
RESULT:  
Michael Tillman  
Michael Guttman  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
7.E. Travel and Training  
Six (6) attendees from the ACDC PSAP to attend the NENA Conference in Grapevine,  
TX on June 18-21. This is a request to adjust the dates of travel; no monetary changes  
are needed to the total amount previously approved.  
Chairman Schwarze said the Board would skip Agenda Item 8 for the moment and hear  
from PAC Chairman Hayden and Vice Chair Dina on Agenda Item 9: DEDIRS Portable  
and Mobile Radio Replacement.  
Attachments:  
APPROVED  
Michael Tillman  
David Schar  
RESULT:  
MOVER:  
SECONDER:  
8.  
DU PAGE ETSB 9-1-1 SYSTEM DESIGN  
Ms. Zerwin said the only thing she had to report which was not in the monthly report was there  
was an initial meeting for the Customer Premise Equipment (CPE), the call handling equipment  
that would be divided between ACDC and DU-COMM. The PSAPs were involved in the  
meeting and that project is moving forward.  
Vice Chair Franz asked if there was a schedule of how quickly that might be completed. Ms.  
Zerwin replied that schedule is being worked through now. There are two upcoming dates, once  
for each PSAP to meet with Motorola and AT&T to go over next steps and the configuration  
plan. Ms. Zerwin said this ties into Text to 9-1-1 and the State ESInet and the State's goal is to  
have everyone on the new network by the end of the year.  
There were no further questions. The Board moved on to Agenda Item 10: Old Business.  
9.  
DEDIRS PORTABLE AND MOBILE RADIO REPLACEMENT  
PAC Chairman Hayden said he had nothing to report on the law enforcement side, that  
everything was still going well.  
PAC Vice Chair Dina said there was good news, twelve new fire radios were programmed,  
distributed for testing, and working well. He said there are challenges being worked through  
dealing with the NFPA 1802 standard. One of those is a hazard zone requirement in which if the  
radio is turned off then on again, it reverts back to the hazard zone at 75% volume. It is not  
something that can be changed, so the Fire Focus Group is working with Motorola and the  
members of the NFPA committee to ensure that everybody is interpreting that standard correctly.  
Vice Chair Dina said Addison used the fire radios at live training yesterday and that he would be  
using them at his live fire training that night. He reported the radios are working well. There is a  
list of approximately twelve questions/concerns for the Motorola Project Manager but nothing  
that cannot be worked through. Vice Chair Dina provided an update of the status of the template  
meetings and the timeline.  
Vice Chair Franz inquired into whether the radios would be rolled out a few agencies at a time.  
PAC Vice Chair Dina reviewed the plan in place of the rollout with the first three zones, PSAP  
training on the consoles, and removal of the first three zones in the new template. Each agency  
would then be given two radios to ensure the template is correct and the radios are functioning  
properly and once they respond, yes, the remaining radios would be distributed with each  
responding agency. Member Eckhoff asked when the radios would be fully implemented. Vice  
Chair Dina replied, it may be an aggressive schedule but they are hoping for summer.  
Chairman Schwarze inquired into the list of minor issues and asked if they are being shared with  
Motorola as they come up or at a future date. Vice Chair Dina said the Motorola System  
Manager is present at each Focus Group template meeting. Chairman Schwarze said thank you.  
There were no further questions.  
The Board then went back to Agenda Item 8: DuPage ETSB 9-1-1 System Design.  
10.  
OLD BUSINESS  
Vice Chair Franz left the meeting at 9:23am.  
Chairman Schwarze said there were questions regarding the consolidation policy. He said the  
Assistant State's Attorney's opinion was emailed to the Board this past week. When asked by  
Chairman Schwarze, ASA Winistorfer said he would be happy to answer any questions, to which  
there were none.  
There was no other old business.  
11.  
12.  
NEW BUSINESS  
Member Guttman asked that ETSB goals be on a future agenda for discussion. Chairman  
Schwarze concurred.  
EXECUTIVE SESSION  
There was no Executive Session.  
12.A. Minutes Review Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C) (21)  
12.B. Personnel Matters Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C ) (1)  
12.C. Security Procedures and the Use of Personnel and Equipment Pursuant to 5 ILCS  
12.D. Pending Litigation Matters Pursuant to 5 ILCS 120/2 (C) (11)  
MATTERS REFERRED FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION  
ADJOURNMENT  
13.  
14.  
14.A. Next Meeting: Wednesday, June 14 at 9:00am in 3-500B  
Chairman Schwarze asked for a motion to adjourn. Member Guttman moved, seconded by  
Member Tillman. The meeting of the ETSB was adjourned at 9:24am.  
Respectfully submitted,  
Jean Kaczmarek